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Old 02-05-2010 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat
You are the problem. You are the reason Lynx pilots are losing their jobs.
No, they're not...

But its quite obvious that nothing will pound that fact into your already made-up mind.
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Old 02-05-2010 | 09:36 AM
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Gentlemen,

Lets not make this about who's taking who's flying and which regional is bigger than the other. Our fellow brothers and sisters are loosing their jobs unfortunately due to BB's decision. How about we focus our energy on helping them find new positions at regionals that are hiring (Skywest, Colgan, Eagle etc...).
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Old 02-05-2010 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat
pot...meet kettle.....

Your post should have started out as: No regional pilot except Republic pilots, should want an increase in flying at the expense of mainline jobs. Look in the mirror. You and yours are the replacements. You are the problem. You are the reason Lynx pilots are losing their jobs.
Bedford is an idiot... and an idiot is now running what is left of our airlines. RAH pilots are not to blame.

GET IT!
(obvious sarcasm accented in bold letters... in case your wondering)
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Old 02-05-2010 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
Bedford is an idiot... and an idiot is now running what is left of our airlines. RAH pilots are not to blame.

GET IT!
(obvious sarcasm accented in bold letters... in case your wondering)
Let me know when they stand up for you IN PUBLIC. It won't happen. You won't hear from any of them. It's their flying now. GET IT?
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Old 02-05-2010 | 10:03 AM
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I get it, but this thread is going to get killed if we don't stop yelling this bs.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT RAH IS ALL ABOUT, KEEP IT ON TOPIC.
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Old 02-05-2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter
Are you kidding, hire the same folks you just put back on the streets.... this time for less money...Can anyone at RAH tell me if its fair to strip someone of their job then turn and hire another of the street is fair??
I know the feeling. That is exactly what SKW wanted to do with XJT.

Originally Posted by Confused
It was not frontier who decided on RAH it was the judge overseeing the case.

Apparently he decided against SWA because he thought seniority integration or whatever would be a fat mess.

Yah I know good call right.
I thought that the only reason why the judge decided that is because SWA management had a stipulation that SLI needed to be completed first and that since FAPA and SWAPA didn't complete SLI and SWA management didn't remove the stipulation, that their offer was invalid. In other words, if there would have been an SLI agreement between FAPA an SWAPA, the SWA offer would have been valid.
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Old 02-05-2010 | 10:59 AM
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Mod note:

Okay folks. You can leave the big bold fonts out of your posts. You can make your point without it.
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Old 02-05-2010 | 11:57 AM
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if there would have been an SLI agreement between FAPA an SWAPA, the SWA offer would have been valid
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Most pilots beleive that they are the sole reason all management decisions decisions are made. This is another example. Truthfully, the pilot integration issue was maybe 1% of the deal. The other 99% of the SWA offer was filled with conditional language on everything from load factor to oil prices, to staffing decisions that WN wanted 6 months of due dilligence to make sure they really wanted to acquire F9 with many opt out clauses along the way. When they realized the RAH offer was clean and ready to close within weeks, they realized they had no shot of acquiring F9 due to their very seedy offer. When they realized they were unprepared for such an acquistion, they had to save face. Kelly told SWAPA to to halt SLI talks, offer something FAPA would reject (Staple) and they could back out and save face by looking like heroes by protecting their employees interest rather than being laughed out of court by Judge Drain for such a ridiculous offer when another better offer was on the table. As usual, everybody on these forums thinks the pilots could have decided the fate of these two companies, when the reality is, they had 1% of the vote...if they were lucky.
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Old 02-05-2010 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by abc123
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Most pilots beleive that they are the sole reason all management decisions decisions are made.
And yet we wonder why everyone else at the airline thinks we're a bunch of divas.
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Old 02-05-2010 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FL450
Gentlemen,

Lets not make this about who's taking who's flying and which regional is bigger than the other. Our fellow brothers and sisters are loosing their jobs unfortunately due to BB's decision. How about we focus our energy on helping them find new positions at regionals that are hiring (Skywest, Colgan, Eagle etc...).
I think some of the younger guys will move on to another regional and progress, but the more experienced pilots on whose back this airline was built, thats another story.

If our situation is grim, it is worse for the Midwest pilots. It is a much lower step down from where they were than for us at Lynx. Commuting for a right seat job at any regional is out of the question and I'm not holding my breath that any integration with republic will be acceptable.

I do not see it as the RAH pilots fault, but without them we would not be looking at a furlough. We are not being shutdown due to a lack of outside flying, the flying we were doing for Frontier has been given to another.

Dirty Rat, can I borrow your old tagline "Whacked by Republic" since your not using it anymore?
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