Are you kidding, hire the same folks you just put back on the streets.... this time for less money...RAH hires of the street I can assure you that Jumpseat wars against your pilot group are going to start.. Can anyone at RAH tell me if its fair to strip someone of their job then turn and hire another of the street is fair?? To many of the guys and gals at lynx we feel for you and I wish Frontier had decided on SWA, that would have been a better option for all.... to RAH and BB... God speed, your turn will come.

 

It was not frontier who decided on RAH it was the judge overseeing the case.

Apparently he decided against SWA because he thought seniority integration or whatever would be a fat mess.

Yah I know good call right.

 

Slow down there with your declarations of a jumpseat war. Hiring would be after All YX, Lynx, RP, RW S5 and F9 pilots were offered recall, after all the lists are merged. Which by the way is scheduled to be complete no later than 5/31. MOST Lynx guys will probably never be furloughed, and if congress can pass their new pilot fatigue law, there will be plenty of seats for everyone, including some current CFIs.

This has been running through my mind recently. If we recall everyone, and hire off the street soon, would any pilot that comes here be a better or worse person than those of us that were "forced" into this position since we already work here? Just wondering, opinions?

 

This statement is horse sh!t. Every single one of them will be furloughed. More than likely, your 5/31 deadline will not be met. We had hard deadlines at NWA/DAL also, and they were never met.

 

This statement is false also. Hardly any Purdue grads were hired post 9/11. The ones that were hired prior have mostly moved on to SWA, CAL, DAL, UPS, and FedEx during the 2005-2007 hiring sprees. There are a ton of uneducated Delta Connection Academy pilots though. Your statement about life being gravy is pretty accurate though. Most of the upper half of the list was hired in their early 20's and upgraded in less than 2 years. They think $70/hour is a lot of money and are perfectly content topping out at $120/hour. The thing they don't realize is if everyone stays, that top salary won't hold up. They'll be replaced by cheaper labor.

 

My best wishes go out to all employees affected by the shutdown of Lynx.

I unfortunately believe the same thing would have happened if It would have been Southwest instead of RAH. Southwest Airlines doesn't have a spotless history either when it comes to codeshares, mergers and acquisitions. A number of years ago when ATA went bankrupt the first time (2004), SWA took over most of the midway slots in a codeshare agreement. ATA at the time also owned a commuter carrier, Chicago Express that was abruptly shutdown (March 2005) quickly after the deal putting over 150 pilots and almost 450 other employees put out in the street.

Then ATA went bankrupt again in 2008 and Southwest purchased that airline. Towards the end of November 2008, Southwest announced it was buying the operating certificate and the remaining assets of ATA Airlines. This acquisition transferred to Southwest Airlines ownership of New York LaGuardia slots formerly controlled by ATA. The transaction did not include any aircraft, facilities or employees of ATA. (Source News Release) Again many good people left out on the street.

Southwest has been a successful airline in the industry, but they do not have the greatest track record in terms of helping people maintain their jobs. I think had they bought Frontier they would have in the least shutdown Lynx and probably done it even faster than RAH.

 

I've met tons.

If I remember correctly both SWA and RAH management made statements that Lynx was profitable and they'd be kept around... What gives? How is a 70+ seat jet more profitable than a 70+ seat t-prop?

Not a fan of this move.

 

Time will tell, but I hope you are wrong...

 

Lynx is profitable... and efficient regional feed is crucial to winning Denver. Sadly (for us) Bedford thinks his empire is better off with an all jet fleet. Bedford spoke to us about "people" wanting jets and not props right after the auction so we saw it coming. Guess he will see how "people" like getting bumped in the summer.

All emotions aside... and seeing what Ejets and Q's both do... it is a BAD decision. They might find a way to get into ASE with an Ejet... but sure as hell not with ME in it.

To parrot what another poster said, thanks to all the folks at Lynx and Frontier for the memories. The mainline crews have always been professional and respectful. I have never seen any of that my airplane is bigger than your airplane attitude. I have had a blast flying the Q with a great group of people... good luck to everyone.

Cheers.

 

Thanks. It pains people to admit I'm right, but after having ridden on your jumpseats regularly for 5 years, I can't count the number of Purdue guys/gals I've met. I've got a couple of Purdue grad friends of mine who work there as well. They agree with me. Great folks, but many of them had "perfect timing" and have donned a pair of rose colored glasses.

A quick upgrade in your early twenties is not something to be taken for granted; however, I think some of them have a skewed view of reality. They have been dealt and amazingly good hand, and some of them don't know it.

EDIT: I have nothing against Purdue grads; it's a fine school that I nearly attended. Just observing that there is a boatload of Purdue alumni there. Again, great people.