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Old 02-04-2010 | 03:23 PM
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E-170/190's in Aspen? Have fun.

I would love to see the plan for a balked landing on 15. In the Q200 it was a hard left 180 degree turn, and having done it, wasn't exactly "casual." And we were doing it at V2+10, or 115ish knots.

I would also like to see the numbers for a 10-15 knot tailwind departure off 33. I bet they'll be bumping paying folks left and right to get the stopping margins they need.

Is the 170 more of a performer than I think it is?

Sorry to all the Lynx folks. Good people, great product. This coming from someone whose been completely hosed by an incompetent CEO. I know the feeling.
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Old 02-04-2010 | 03:24 PM
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10 kts is the limit for a tailwind TO for the 170. This announcement is wild. What next?
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Old 02-04-2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
as for the pilots they will be working with in the republic system so they will still have jobs.
Sure, when? I mean when exactly are they going to reinstate and integrate these pilots? No offense, but you make it seem like "oh well", "not big deal".

I think you're missing the point, Bedford is tearing these companies from the inside out, replacing the labor, and selling the assets, just as Lorenzo did in the 80's. Seeing as you work for the man, I would be concerned that in a few years you might be costing the man too much, and he'll have to "re-structure" and you may find yourself at the bottom of somebody else's list.

Honestly, you guys need to take a look at the bigger picture here. I have no ill feelings towards the RAH guys or any other group for that matter, but you can't just justify and dismiss Bedford's actions as "business as usual", you could be next!
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Old 02-04-2010 | 03:34 PM
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but you can't just justify and dismiss Bedford's actions as "business as usual", you could be next!
Yes, they can. They owe him everything. They couldn't possibly bite the hand that feeds them.

This is the man who took them from "aviation university CFI" (lots of Purdue grads) and got a lot of them into the left seat of a "baby 737" in 1-2 years.

For 50% of those guys, life at RP has been gravy from day one. Until they get displaced, furloughed, and have their pay cut, they will continue to trust BB to do whatever is necessary to keep their jobs secure.

This is another such move, and I'm sure 75% of them are supportive of this decision.
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Old 02-04-2010 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by flyandive
The Employee FAQ, is even worse:

Q Will Lynx flight crews be able to fly other Republic aircraft?
A Lynx pilots and flight attendants would be able to fly for other units of Republic after the pilot and flight attendant seniority lists for all Republic companies are integrated, as required by statute, and after all higher seniority pilots and flight attendants are recalled from furlough.
Wow.
I am so sorry for you all. This entire thing is just disgusting. I wish you all the best. Take care and KEEP SMILING!!
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Old 02-04-2010 | 03:55 PM
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This is absolutly ridiculous. Again I don't blame RAH pilots at all (although it is a bit obnoxious running into more and more of them that are excited about what's going on at the expense of hundreds of jobs lost) but what their company is doing is the downfall of our profession. I know this horse has been beaten to death so I won't beat anymore, except to say that I think its about time RAH guys stopped trying to justify their company and just admit that they are signal handily stunting the careers of all they are furloughing, all currently in the industry that want to move on to somewhere better, and those that have paid their dues and were looking forward to a nice retirement. Just makes me sick, but hey, FLAME ON.
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Old 02-04-2010 | 04:16 PM
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All I can say is I hope Southwest drops a train on them in DEN and MKE.
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Old 02-04-2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
This is the man who took them from "aviation university CFI" (lots of Purdue grads) and got a lot of them into the left seat of a "baby 737" in 1-2 years.
The vast majority of "Purduebees" were hired 1997-2001, well before any 170 was on property, and any of them still there are easily in the top 10% of the seniority list. The 2nd group of low-time Purdue grads happened mid-07 thru 2008 when they dropped the 1500/300 minimums they had for the 170 spin-up, and these folks never really got close to upgrade in ANY airframe.

Any Purdue grads hired in between those two groups, and there were more than a couple, came from places like Trans States or Piedmont or Air Wisconsin and easily met the 1500/300 mins.

Back to your regularly scheduled point-making...
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Old 02-04-2010 | 04:20 PM
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Bryan Bedford is a real class act. I blame no one for this but himself and his "team." To all the original people at Frontier, thank you for making my time there awesome. I truely hope the frontier pilots do WHATEVER is needed to not allow this virus of a company to hurt what you guys have built. I hope BBs plan FAILS, which I believe it really will.
Good luck in the future to everyone at Lynx, and I really look forward to flying with all of you again.
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Old 02-04-2010 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot
All I can say is I hope Southwest drops a train on them in DEN and MKE.
I don't think you have to hope much, just read the news. Airtran just opened a MKE domicile to go along with their expansion, and SWA has gradually been increasing their presence in both markets. It's unfortunate, because if RAH "branded" is eliminated, many good folks that don't want anything to do with the reverend's way of doing business will lose their jobs.

I rather hope that the RAH pilots (all of them Frontier, Midwest, and regional) get a really good contract, and fair integration of the seniority lists.
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