Is this part of the PBS talks?

 

im not starting a rumor. i told you where i got it. at the road show. from an alpa member, who simply stated the company has asked them to relax the no furlough. another guy posting on this thread was at the same road show.

the alpa guy responded, no way. it wouldn't matter what they offered in return, we're not going to give in on the no furlough.

 

and technically, they are not all that short. the only reason it appears they are, red arrow days, is because the line values are so low. if every line was blocked in the 90's, we wouldnt appear under staffed.

just curious, why do you think it would get hairy if the company made it known that they would like to furlough more? we all knew the last two rounds were coming and it didnt get hairy

 

The last two rounds didn't violate the no furlough clause. Any more furloughs would. .. and if they could snub their nose at that clause, then what other sections could come under fire?

 

well telling us they are overstaffed and WANT to furlough is different that actually doing it. ya obviously it would hit the fan if they actually did it.

 

So what is the deal with the Vietnam thing? Wasn't the Skywest BOD supposed to vote on that this month?

 

I just heard the same from a friend who attended one of the road shows this weekend. They're saying the company would like to furlough another 200.

Just wondering, if this is true, why have they stopped offering COMA?

 

I can't believe that's true, with no comas, decent block hour lines, and red arrow days still as populous as they are. Question is, what's the motivation for saying this?

 

PBS...... I think they are trying position themselves for when/if PBS goes live. If it thins out the pilot group enough they can put more pilots on the street. What makes no sense is that I think it's a pointless position to take. Because other airlines using PBS with less block hours then we do, have a higher pilot to block hr ratio then we do. I do believe that ALPA knows the truth already, before we got furloughed ALPA was OFFICIALLY saying that they were working with ASA to avoid furlough but I was lucky enough to run into someone in ALPA that warned me FIRMLY to not buy a house I was looking at until AFTER winter. He was right... I was furloughed with the 1st group and would have been in a bad spot if I bought the house. ALPA has been working too closely with ASA to not know what is going on about staffing in my opinion. If you want to know the truth, you just have to find someone in ALPA that will tell you the truth, they are there.

 

As one other poster said, it would do a little more than offend the pilot group if the company decided to furlough into the clause. I have yet to meet one individual that takes that lightly. It wouldn't be a smart move on their part and they know it.

As far as staffing, I'm not sure which aircraft you are assigned to but the 700/900 seems pretty short. Although, I'm only basing that on original line block values and what our current bucket list has been showing through out the month. Looks like there aren't many guys on call each day but when you look at their credits they're pretty low. At least at this point in the month. I think those credits being low have something to do with all of the cancellations due to weather and using line holders on most of the days with cancellations. Who knows.......

But once they start cutting into the contract on furloughs, you'll see some horrible moral and possibly some DCI and United Express contract changes due to lack of performance. Morale is directly promotional to performance which is directly proportional to cash value. Therefore, furlough equals not a good idea at this point. You get the point.