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RJ Pilot 10-05-2011 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1065333)
I also heard unfortunately that a lot of captains have failed their type rides

How come? I thought the difference between a normal FO PC and a type ride was a steep turn.

embraer 10-05-2011 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by stillageek (Post 1065326)
Care to provide a link to the news story which states the CEO of US Air has contact AMR? I've seen speculative stories, but none stating Parker has contacted AMR.

Best I could do:

American Ripe for Takeover: Is US Airways Looking? - TheStreet

Royer 10-06-2011 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1065441)
How come? I thought the difference between a normal FO PC and a type ride was a steep turn.

That's why people fail their type rides. There are so many small things you can get nailed for: from basic engine start procedures and taxi routes to abnormal procedures and decision making.

Sounds simple, but the fact that it's a type ride and the added pressure of the Feds watching over your shoulder and you have a recipe for a nervous pilot.

It's so much more than "just a steep turn".

RJ Pilot 10-06-2011 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 1065600)
That's why people fail their type rides. There are so many small things you can get nailed for: from basic engine start procedures and taxi routes to abnormal procedures and decision making.

Sounds simple, but the fact that it's a type ride and the added pressure of the Feds watching over your shoulder and you have a recipe for a nervous pilot.

It's so much more than "just a steep turn".

Really? Feds makes the applicant nervous? If thats the case, I don't want to be a pax when the manure hits the fan up front. You have to be able to perform under pressure. I guess we have a bunch of Tony Romo's at Eagle. Bunch of chokers. It's silly that guys are busting just because the FAA is observing the DE perform the ride.:rolleyes:

snippercr 10-06-2011 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 1065600)
That's why people fail their type rides. There are so many small things you can get nailed for: from basic engine start procedures and taxi routes to abnormal procedures and decision making.

Sounds simple, but the fact that it's a type ride and the added pressure of the Feds watching over your shoulder and you have a recipe for a nervous pilot.

It's so much more than "just a steep turn".

Also on FO rides, I thought you were allowed to be "retrained" on certain things. My examiner was telling me that if something were to be performed below standards, he could retrain and retest right then and there. On a type ride, he was saying once you bust, the ride is over.

ERJF15 10-06-2011 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1065743)
Really? Feds makes the applicant nervous? If thats the case, I don't want to be a pax when the manure hits the fan up front. You have to be able to perform under pressure. I guess we have a bunch of Tony Romo's at Eagle. Bunch of chokers. It's silly that guys are busting just because the FAA is observing the DE perform the ride.:rolleyes:

You know BL is over the top. Seems like he takes being w/Mesa out on us.

RJ Pilot 10-06-2011 10:45 AM

There is no such thing as a perfect checkride.

Royer 10-06-2011 12:34 PM

They aren't asking for perfect checkrides. However, they don't just hand out type certificates, you have to earn it. And if you think you can walk in there and ace the type ride because you've "been on this airplane for 5 years" it ain't happening. I don't care if you are Chuck fu(king Yeager. But you've got nerves of steel, so don't bother preparing. Just don't bitc4 when you fail

ERJF15 10-06-2011 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 1065821)
I don't care if you are Chuck fu(king Yeager.


Chuck invented the checkride! That's why it takes an ********* to give'm :D

RJ Pilot 10-06-2011 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Royer (Post 1065821)
They aren't asking for perfect checkrides. However, they don't just hand out type certificates, you have to earn it. And if you think you can walk in there and ace the type ride because you've "been on this airplane for 5 years" it ain't happening. I don't care if you are Chuck fu(king Yeager. But you've got nerves of steel, so don't bother preparing. Just don't bitc4 when you fail

Seems to me that instructors are sending students unprepared to type-checkrides. Heard they have plenty of new instructors (new captains) there teaching. That might be part of the many failures they are having.


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