Eagle Life
10-22-2011 | 04:15 AM
#4131
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From: ATR72
Flyingpig, that's a very base specific question. Depending on how the staffing is in DFW at the time. In our reserve system, the junior man gets called out first. So if you bid reserve as a newhire you will be used alot, but as you gain seniority you get called less. The reserve list normally has a big jump in seniority between the junior pilots who got stuck with reserve and the senior pilots who bid it purposely. I'm at another base, but I do bid reserve so I can stay home more.
Pros: Last month I flew 14 hours, but get my 75 hours pay guarantee.
I get 11 days off guaranteed but stayed at home 17 days since I wasn't used.
Normally if the company calls it's just to do a turn some where so I get to spend the night at home.
Cons:uncertainty of schedule.
Less pay on reserve compared to holding a line.
Being called out to do a trip, from another base.
Pros: Last month I flew 14 hours, but get my 75 hours pay guarantee.
I get 11 days off guaranteed but stayed at home 17 days since I wasn't used.
Normally if the company calls it's just to do a turn some where so I get to spend the night at home.
Cons:uncertainty of schedule.
Less pay on reserve compared to holding a line.
Being called out to do a trip, from another base.
10-22-2011 | 05:16 AM
#4132
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From: French-Canadian
Another cop here (FWPD Detective)...and ex-regional airline captain.
I am now looking at getting back into the industry after a 10 year absence. I'm not going to ask you Eagle guys what my chances are of getting hired or anything like that. I know it won't be handed to me and it will be tough.
I am, however, more interested in the initial QOL at Eagle. I commuted in my first airline career and it SUCKED!
I live in the D/FW area and obviously would want to be based here. I am fortunate to be debt free with a drug dealing wife (Pharma Rep) who can support my $21/hour flying habit.
My question: If I'm fortunate enough to get a job at Eagle, what would the reserve life be like if I just wanted to fly to remain current until upgrade. I don't desperately need the money and I already have an ATP, so flying less is best until upgrade, in my opinion.
Would bidding reserve even when a hardline comes available keep me at home more (on a 2 hour call out), or are there good day trip lines with minimal overnights in that base?
Please spare the "Why would you want to come back?" and "Get hired first before you ask this question." responses.
Thanks in advance...
I am now looking at getting back into the industry after a 10 year absence. I'm not going to ask you Eagle guys what my chances are of getting hired or anything like that. I know it won't be handed to me and it will be tough.
I am, however, more interested in the initial QOL at Eagle. I commuted in my first airline career and it SUCKED!
I live in the D/FW area and obviously would want to be based here. I am fortunate to be debt free with a drug dealing wife (Pharma Rep) who can support my $21/hour flying habit.
My question: If I'm fortunate enough to get a job at Eagle, what would the reserve life be like if I just wanted to fly to remain current until upgrade. I don't desperately need the money and I already have an ATP, so flying less is best until upgrade, in my opinion.
Would bidding reserve even when a hardline comes available keep me at home more (on a 2 hour call out), or are there good day trip lines with minimal overnights in that base?
Please spare the "Why would you want to come back?" and "Get hired first before you ask this question." responses.
Thanks in advance...
10-22-2011 | 09:58 AM
#4133
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From: 737 FO
The unofficial policy of AE is that RSVs should fly everyday they are available. If the ATR folks aren't doing it right now, it will change. I wouldn't count on bidding RSV to stay home as a long term deal...
10-22-2011 | 11:05 AM
#4134
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Another cop here (FWPD Detective)...and ex-regional airline captain.
I am now looking at getting back into the industry after a 10 year absence. I'm not going to ask you Eagle guys what my chances are of getting hired or anything like that. I know it won't be handed to me and it will be tough.
I am, however, more interested in the initial QOL at Eagle. I commuted in my first airline career and it SUCKED!
I live in the D/FW area and obviously would want to be based here. I am fortunate to be debt free with a drug dealing wife (Pharma Rep) who can support my $21/hour flying habit.
My question: If I'm fortunate enough to get a job at Eagle, what would the reserve life be like if I just wanted to fly to remain current until upgrade. I don't desperately need the money and I already have an ATP, so flying less is best until upgrade, in my opinion.
Would bidding reserve even when a hardline comes available keep me at home more (on a 2 hour call out), or are there good day trip lines with minimal overnights in that base?
Please spare the "Why would you want to come back?" and "Get hired first before you ask this question." responses.
Thanks in advance...
I am now looking at getting back into the industry after a 10 year absence. I'm not going to ask you Eagle guys what my chances are of getting hired or anything like that. I know it won't be handed to me and it will be tough.
I am, however, more interested in the initial QOL at Eagle. I commuted in my first airline career and it SUCKED!
I live in the D/FW area and obviously would want to be based here. I am fortunate to be debt free with a drug dealing wife (Pharma Rep) who can support my $21/hour flying habit.
My question: If I'm fortunate enough to get a job at Eagle, what would the reserve life be like if I just wanted to fly to remain current until upgrade. I don't desperately need the money and I already have an ATP, so flying less is best until upgrade, in my opinion.
Would bidding reserve even when a hardline comes available keep me at home more (on a 2 hour call out), or are there good day trip lines with minimal overnights in that base?
Please spare the "Why would you want to come back?" and "Get hired first before you ask this question." responses.
Thanks in advance...
I'm on the ERJ based in DFW. I have enough seniority on Reserve that I fly when I want, where I want. More importantly, I don't fly when I don't want to.
So far in October I have only done 2 flights and only one of them was an overnight. Both were by choice. The rest of the time I get to sit at home and be paid guarantee. I have been able to hold a line for a couple of months now but continue to bid reserve. My QOL is very, very high right now.
Now, here is the caveat. To take advantage of that you have to get hired now. If you are sitting at the bottom of the reserve list when hiring stops you are stuck there.
The good thing about Eagle right now is that they are projected to hire upwards of 700 pilots in 2012. Assuming you get a class date for Janurary, I would say that by July you would be sitting at the top third of the reserve list in either ORD or DFW on the ERJ.
10-22-2011 | 11:56 AM
#4135
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From: French-Canadian
Really, because all I keep hearing from ATR FO at the Airport or on here is that they are not flying allot. If you are towards the top of the reserve list you dictate what you do over 90% of the time. Scheduling on the ATR is very different from the ATR. On the ATR you only have 3 bases and one of them requires a DH of over 5 hr from DFW and only 2 flights a day. Trust me RSV on the ATR is way better than the ERJ that is unless you have a bit of SJS and all you want to do is fly.
10-22-2011 | 12:17 PM
#4136
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eagle will not hire 700 in 2012.
all that is for consumption purposes of the lonely masses.
ATR leave all in 2 years. Thats 225 extra pilots.
E135/E140 all leave in 3 years, thats an extra 450 pilots.
No growth just reduction for feed divesting.
Thats 675 extra pilots than required, even with flow of AA numbered AE pilots still leaves 300 extra excess pilots.
but yeap, ae will hire for training bubble but then will furlough at the end. big furlough june 2012. but come on over.
my facts are based on AMR form 10, the ASA agreement, the concessionary contract and the scheduled fleet removal.
all that is for consumption purposes of the lonely masses.
ATR leave all in 2 years. Thats 225 extra pilots.
E135/E140 all leave in 3 years, thats an extra 450 pilots.
No growth just reduction for feed divesting.
Thats 675 extra pilots than required, even with flow of AA numbered AE pilots still leaves 300 extra excess pilots.
but yeap, ae will hire for training bubble but then will furlough at the end. big furlough june 2012. but come on over.
my facts are based on AMR form 10, the ASA agreement, the concessionary contract and the scheduled fleet removal.
10-22-2011 | 12:29 PM
#4137
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From: GV Captain
eagle will not hire 700 in 2012.
all that is for consumption purposes of the lonely masses.
ATR leave all in 2 years. Thats 225 extra pilots.
E135/E140 all leave in 3 years, thats an extra 450 pilots.
No growth just reduction for feed divesting.
Thats 675 extra pilots than required, even with flow of AA numbered AE pilots still leaves 300 extra excess pilots.
but yeap, ae will hire for training bubble but then will furlough at the end. big furlough june 2012. but come on over.
my facts are based on AMR form 10, the ASA agreement, the concessionary contract and the scheduled fleet removal.
all that is for consumption purposes of the lonely masses.
ATR leave all in 2 years. Thats 225 extra pilots.
E135/E140 all leave in 3 years, thats an extra 450 pilots.
No growth just reduction for feed divesting.
Thats 675 extra pilots than required, even with flow of AA numbered AE pilots still leaves 300 extra excess pilots.
but yeap, ae will hire for training bubble but then will furlough at the end. big furlough june 2012. but come on over.
my facts are based on AMR form 10, the ASA agreement, the concessionary contract and the scheduled fleet removal.
+1
Thats why they keep hiring sim instructors, ioe checkairmans like crazy!
10-22-2011 | 12:38 PM
#4138
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thay are all leaving.
they hire in advace of the transfer date.
it takes 6 mos for a ground instructor to get qualified.
3 mos for IOE Line Check Airman.
6 mos for a sim instructor
besides, all the last group hired last year were temp, they are all returning to the line. They get called back as needed from the line.
they hire in advace of the transfer date.
it takes 6 mos for a ground instructor to get qualified.
3 mos for IOE Line Check Airman.
6 mos for a sim instructor
besides, all the last group hired last year were temp, they are all returning to the line. They get called back as needed from the line.
10-22-2011 | 12:59 PM
#4140
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From: French-Canadian
thay are all leaving.
they hire in advace of the transfer date.
it takes 6 mos for a ground instructor to get qualified.
3 mos for IOE Line Check Airman.
6 mos for a sim instructor
besides, all the last group hired last year were temp, they are all returning to the line. They get called back as needed from the line.
they hire in advace of the transfer date.
it takes 6 mos for a ground instructor to get qualified.
3 mos for IOE Line Check Airman.
6 mos for a sim instructor
besides, all the last group hired last year were temp, they are all returning to the line. They get called back as needed from the line.
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