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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:02 AM
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Yeah, at other carriers picking up Eagle's flying. People who talk like that are drowning themselves in the kool-aid. Eagle's going to have to take pay cuts, which you shouldn't, to keep or gain any flying. Right now with the cost structure Eagle can't compete, which means more layoffs to come. It's always good to keep high hopes but the airline industry likes to crush them.
And some people are drowning themselves in doom and gloom. I highly doubt well see pay cuts since we're all ready about industry avg. the main worry we have would be a reduction in our fleet.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:22 AM
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And some people are drowning themselves in doom and gloom. I highly doubt well see pay cuts since we're all ready about industry avg. the main worry we have would be a reduction in our fleet.
Ummm, industry average? Eagle's the second highest cost behind Comair. As far as doom and gloom, yeah many are but you always hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:29 AM
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Only because of our longevity.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:29 AM
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I could see them shaving some off the top but wide spread pay cuts I don't see
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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:34 AM
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I don't think we'll be hiring for at least the next several months. It's hard to predict what will happen. I could be wrong but I even doubt the top management knows what they're going to do tomorrow. They may have a goal that they're trying to attain, but I wouldn't be surprised if they know how they're going to get there.

For that reason, I think it's almost impossible to predict what will happen. Even in the most stable times, the industry is still volatile.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MusicPilot
Ummm, industry average? Eagle's the second highest cost behind Comair. As far as doom and gloom, yeah many are but you always hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

you want to show me how your statement is correct.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 09:52 AM
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Well said.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:05 AM
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I think that senior pilots (more than 12years) are the ones that could take a paycut.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
I think that senior pilots (more than 12years) are the ones that could take a paycut.
Funny. Paycuts across the board my friend.
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:32 AM
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If American Airlines required 1000 new pilots (and by new I mean not currently on property), the entire landscape of Eagle would change, and it would be the best for the company, and the pilots. In the next 12-24 months some of this most likely will be true, and in 3-5 years will most definitely become true.

I therefor think it is not out of touch with reality to think the pay scale could take a 3-5% cut across the board at eagle, and captain pay cap at the current rate of 12 years. That would fuel the movement to benefit everyone over the next few years.

Furthermore a large amount of contractual language needs to change before the flying can leave AMR and goto someone else, and unless your a BK lawyer, you really can not say how that will work.

This website is a bunch of pilots speculating what will happen in a legal process, yet I bet only one or two of you are licensed to practice law, have received adequate training to provide legal advice on a bankruptcy matter, or have worked for hire in a bankruptcy case in any legal capacity(ie a paralegal). It is mostly just guys who have either been screwed by a similar situation and misery loves company, or mainly just guys who get woodies at the idea that our crappy regional might become even crappier, and then seem more like your crappy regional, and hopefully provide some sort of movement at your crappy regional by getting some of our flying.
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