For the record, could you highlight the post where I called you a high-fiver ?

If you look at my post history, you'll find several recent posts where I acknowledge not all Eagle pilots are of the same cloth. My referring to Wingtips as your pal, wasn't necessarily implying you have a "high-five mentality", it was a reference to possible sympathy as a fellow Eagle pilot despite his transgressions. Is it possible you are generalizing me ?

Yes, it sucks. Thanks for the advice.

My sympathies to your experiences.

The 4000 number was a ridiculous self-serving inflation. It's actually closer to perhaps 500. You'll get more 70-seat jets (likely 76-seat E-175's actually), but I think Eagle will be smaller and one of several feeders. How much smaller and how many other feeders, I don't know. A merged list and elimination of scope is the one solution that everyone wins with (even AMR). Not sure if they can psychologically go there. AThey may feel, forcing their term sheet is a better situation for them, i.e., "not leaving money on the table". At forst they won't, but like all their past flops, eventaully, it will cost them more elsewhere.

I too have read the argument about that scope language, but I'm not convinced. It may or may not be. The best solution is a negotiated one with everyone winning as much as possible. As it stands now, if AMR rams that term sheet down out throats, it will only push the pilots to nuzzle up to Parker or someone else and I think the primary goal then will then be to sell those down the river who sold us down the river....even at our own expense. If Parker wins or scenario B., which is the "nulclear option" (that being the pilot group goes nuclear with mass resignations, etc.), then AA is fragmented or liquidates and then since One World has no U.S. presence, it too will likely collapse. If the term sheet or anything close to that becomes reality, then even AMR will lose control of the situation, exclusivity or not.

 

If oneworld lost AA, why not get USAIR to join and back them fiscally? USair could pick up the useful parts of the demise?

USAIR is still star alliance correct? How do they fit into that at all, I think its just leftover from their UAL merger idea in 2000.

You really want to get scared about merger noise? Get scared when Usair joins oneworld.

 

If U and AA are truly destined to end up in bed together, it will matter little whether U's joining One World occurs first or last. Parker still has to get around clauses in USAPA's CBA regarding VERY expensive pay rate snapbacks should U merge. If U isn't the controlling entity in any merge, U owes USAPA another 250 million on top of that supposedly.

If AA and U merge, it will could very well be disastrous for those at Eagle.

 

It would take a few years to happen, by then with retirements, changes in faa rules going into effect, and lack of new pilots, most likely wont matter.

 

The combined AA/U couldn't nor wouldn't support the need for 10 airlines, 600 regional aircraft or 6000 regional pilots.

That trimming would be far quicker then a few years IMO.

 

We will see, I don't think its going to happen. Even if it did happen it would take a few years to actually finish.

Look how long UA/CA is taking, and they still have not combined anything pilot/fleet wise. Also its not like Expressjet has gone anywhere either, size wise.

I mean seriously, US/AW is not even MERGED HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

If anything they would be better to run them separate for a few years and let all the guys on top retire, its half of both airlines. Then it would be an easy mix together with those who are left. At that point everyone is going to be hiring anyway. Eventually this stuff has to move fairly quickly like its 1999 again. The longer this all takes, the better for Eagle. AA might be forced to merge the list just to get people to work at Eagle.

It really makes a ton of sense to me at least to just merge the list, its good for everyone long term. AA pilots could fly the Eagle 90 seaters and avoid furloughing. Eagle pilots in a few years would be flying AA planes anyway since the pilot group is so old. AMR would not have to deal with the pilot shortage since people would gladly fly the RJ knowing they are on the same list as AA.

Now only this was a more shared ideal.
Instead Eagle/AA guys won't even make eye contact in the airports anymore.

 

Well, none of those regionals were subject to chapter 11. Comair as part of Delta is the closest in situation to Eagle, that being a wholly owned high-seniority regional. In fact, Comair had many more larger RJ's putting them at greater advantage then Eagle, 80% of whose fleet is owned by AA and 50-seaters.

I suppose we'll have to wait till the 21st to get glimpse of the future, eh ?

 

Heard that our proposal is coming out on 3/21. Things are gonna get interesting around this place!

 

ya eaglefly we will see.

You have to remember too though at NW, both Compass and Mesaba were owned by the company. Also at DL ASA was owned by DL. I am not sure but I think when CAL did CH11 in the 90s ExpressJet was owned by them.

The cycle is changing this decade though, its not going to look like the last 10 years, if you can't think this way, your just going to keep saying oh wow I didnt see that coming. The tides have changed for a new cycle.

 

Yeah, what do I know. My silly opinions are based on 25 years in the industry, all with AMR. I never knew an Eagle new-hire with 1.5 years at Eagle under his belt could explain so much to me about the airline industry...... past, present and future. I suppose if this was a year or so ago and you wandered into the cockpit fresh off IOE, you'd be explaining to me just like this, all the things I don't know about the industry and Eagle, new-hire to senior captain................jeez. BTW, the "new cycle" is what the high-fivers are hoping for and as I stated previously, it will only imprison most of them for their careers in that "new-cycle". Careful what you wish for.

At any rate, silly me.