RamenNoodles

Just want to point out that Pinnacle, Mesaba, and Comair do not have dual qual.

Let's say we do entertain dual qual. Under what conditions would we accept these terms? I would need the blended rate to be heavily in favor of the larger aircraft. Any other ideas? The way I see it, dual qual is a concession on the part of the pilots because of the reduced staffing. Do we really want to reduce our staffing requirements even more than what PBS will accomplish?

Under the right conditions, I'd vote in favor of dual qual. It's not about the airplane itself, as I'm not even a 700 driver anymore, but the quality of life issues. Example, I'd lose quite a bit of seniority in my seat should we move to dual qual, as would most 200 captains. No bueno, which is why I'd want za blended rate favoring the 700. There are other issues that concern me, but I'll wait until I don't have to fight with my retarded phone to continue.

What else do you guys want in the JCBA?

MaxPowerSet

Something else we lost in our last contract that we need to get back is being able to maximize time off with vacation. Under our previous contract, any trip that touched vacation could be dropped without affecting pay. I understand this is the way the XJT contract still is. Under our current contract, if you choose to drop the portion of trips that fall outside of your vacation, you can see your pay reduced significantly below min guarantee. More than a few pilots here learned this the hard way when they got a fraction of their normal paycheck after bidding their vacation month without this knowledge.

On another note, the Ready Reserve rules need to be tightened up and brought more in line with XJT's. Line holders complain about a three hour sit of "airport appreciation"... Try an eight hour sit up to six times a month seemingly assigned at the whim of Crew Scheduling!

bender

I really like being dual qualified because it maximizes my schedule flexibility and I have a better chance of getting the days off that I want. Just don't adopt the same "Brad Holt Override" that we have!

Confused

Keep in mind that the cost of living in Canada is much much much more than down here. Higher taxes as well.

Trip7

100% Agreed. Well said.

I stand corrected on the we're the only one that flies it separately statement.

Like others have stated, I believe your QOL will most likely improve with dual qual due to increased schedule flexibility. Imagine being able to fly a United 200 trip with long overnights in Chicago or NYC one week then flying a 700/900 trip the next week with a long Toronto or Key West? The schedules will just be able to get that much better.

As far a payrate, the pilot group should absolutely not accept a "Brad Holt Override" for Dual Qual. I am strongly in favor of a blended payrate based on a percentage ratio of 200 to 700/900 aircraft. The new JCBA 200 payrate used in the blended payrate should be at least what current 700/900 pay is and the new JCBA 700/900 rates higher than the 200 JCBA rate.

Of course payrates is just a small part of the picture as other contractual issues like recurrent checkride switcheroos between 200 and 700/900 will have to accounted for

Trip7

Awh come on, the cost of living in NYC is more than Toronto, and there is nobody with an NYC base paying Jazz payrates

Confused

Dual qual is coming I can almost promise that. Saves a load of money for the company.

Maybe a combination of PBS and dual qual would help us grow in some ways but who knows. Price is right is on I am gonna go watch the models show off a vacuum cleaner or something.

Later fella's

Captain Tony

I don't think that pilots who have never flown the -700/900 should have their opinion counted as to whether we should fly both. Unless you've done it, you have nothing to base that opinion on except selfish financial or schedule motivation, and most 700 pilots will tell you they don't ever want to fly the 200 again!

How about this: get senior enough to bid it instead of trying to steal seniority/pay from the ones already on it?

johnso29

It's such BS that Regional guys have to put up with this. At Delta the most junior pilots gets 125 hours of sick pay every year. It's a longevity based system so at some point(8-10 years I think) you cap out at 240 hours of sick time every year. It's use it or lose it sick time.

Now, you can use 300 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100% & once you exceed that the sick time is paid out at less then 100%, but the Delta Pilot Mutual Aid makes up the difference. Also, if I call in sick for my first trip of the month & end up being sick all month that is ONE sick call. They will just mark me off as sick until I call back and tell them I'm better. Basically I have to 'call in well'.

Sorry for the hi-jack, just wanted to throw it out there. I just can't believe these Regional management jerks get away with this crap.

Captain Tony

And before you all get spooled up, I know for a fact that our MEC puts exactly zero weight on message board posts when making decisions. So the only valid place to discuss this and have your opinion counted is in the survey or directly with the reps.