Pinnacle / Colgan Seniority List
03-07-2011 | 08:39 AM
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03-07-2011 | 08:42 AM
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Colgan has never operated as a pinnacle flight in any capacity. PNCL holdings can buy any airline it wants and operate them separately from the other companies. Your scope contract prevents Colgan or any other airline from operating pinnacle airlines INC flights ONLY. In Mesaba's case in the past we had a scope contract with MAIR that prevented them from operating larger aircraft than 20 seats IIRC.
03-07-2011 | 08:46 AM
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Colgan has never operated as a pinnacle flight in any capacity. PNCL holdings can buy any airline it wants and operate them separately from the other companies. Your scope contract prevents Colgan or any other airline from operating pinnacle airlines INC flights ONLY. In Mesaba's case in the past we had a scope contract with MAIR that prevented them from operating larger aircraft than 20 seats IIRC.
03-07-2011 | 08:51 AM
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I really don't see how else to make you understand.....LEAVE OUT Pinnacle INC VS CORP for the purposes of this codeshare discussion. If Airline X buys airline Z and uses airline X's assets without merging the lists ets, it doesn't matter who airline Z codeshares with...you violated airline X's scope for the purposes of this discussion.
03-07-2011 | 08:52 AM
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Depending on the nature of the way the business is setup it may not be a violation of the scope contract.
03-07-2011 | 08:55 AM
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You are talking about something completely different than the relationship between Colgan and Pinnacle. I understand what you are talking about. You are saying that if Pinnacle INC bought an airline and started operating it as Pinnacle Inc, that would be a scope violation. That is correct, however in the case of Pinnacle vs Colgan both airlines were kept separate. This is not a violation of scope even if Pinnacle INC used its assets to form Pinnacle Holdings.
03-07-2011 | 08:57 AM
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yes, but you had said that if Pinnacle inc bought an airline and used it as Pinnacle inc, they would not be in violation of codeshare if that other airline they bought was used as a feeder for CO/UA/insert non 'DL code here....that's what we are trying to make you see...if it was INC and run as COLGAN it would be in violation of scope even though Colgan doesn't feed DL...
03-07-2011 | 09:03 AM
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From: CL-65 captain
You are talking about something completely different than the relationship between Colgan and Pinnacle. I understand what you are talking about. You are saying that if Pinnacle INC bought an airline and started operating it as Pinnacle Inc, that would be a scope violation. That is correct, however in the case of Pinnacle vs Colgan both airlines were kept separate. This is not a violation of scope even if Pinnacle INC used its assets to form Pinnacle Holdings.
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