June will be interesting month at Republic
05-16-2011, 08:53 PM
#31
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Position: M88B
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Originally Posted by trueblue717
You think Bedford has done some AMAZING things....Yes I have to agree...He has taken two good airlines and DESTROYED them....He is SO arrogant, he did not need to rely on any of the employees of either airline. Have any of you looked at his resume...He has NEVER sold a seat on an airplane...He recognized and exploited the fee for departure business for years, now that that side of the business is over..he has NO idea what to do....My only HOPE and DREAM is that his next job is running the lav trucks, and his supervisor does not train him...so he gets a face full of what he is full of.....rest assured.. Republic is OVER....for those still there, good luck in today's economy trying to get a flying job...especially with the reputation you will carry with you...
05-16-2011, 09:39 PM
#32
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After what happened to Midwest i am bitter towards Republic and sincerely hope they go Chapter 7. Would love to see Bedford handing out flyers at home depot or selling encyclopaedias door-to-door.
Saying that fingers crossed some other company buys Frontier or they get sold and operate independantly again.
Saying that fingers crossed some other company buys Frontier or they get sold and operate independantly again.
05-16-2011, 09:54 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
Stuff like this amazes me. We are all just trying to make it, too bad some think they have already reached GOD status. Virtually all of us started somewhere in this industry and it sucks to see any pilots suffer for a management mistake.
05-17-2011, 09:38 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by SD3FR8DOG
After what happened to Midwest i am bitter towards Republic and sincerely hope they go Chapter 7. Would love to see Bedford handing out flyers at home depot or selling encyclopaedias door-to-door.
05-17-2011, 10:10 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by zoooropa
It was said in the conference call and the meetings in Denver, but he also mentions it in the same letter....
"What we didnt report was that the 17 E170s and the 13 E135/145 regional jets we fly under the Frontier brand actually lost about $15 million."
And
"We also announced a revised CPA agreement with Delta, which will allow us to move the majority of the E170s from loss-making flying at Frontier to profitable CPA flying with Delta. Thats a good outcome for everyone. However it doesnt solve all our network and fleet challenges. We still have to reassess our E135/145 flying and also reassess how we manage our network in Milwaukee."
The remaining three 170's in the branded op will be going to the UAL CPA.
The 135/145's are becoming "frontier express", and will operate on a pro-rata agreement between chautuaqau and frontier airlines. This move doesn't save money but it moves the branded loss over to the fixed fee side.
Brand will only operate 320, 319, and 190's.
"What we didnt report was that the 17 E170s and the 13 E135/145 regional jets we fly under the Frontier brand actually lost about $15 million."
And
"We also announced a revised CPA agreement with Delta, which will allow us to move the majority of the E170s from loss-making flying at Frontier to profitable CPA flying with Delta. Thats a good outcome for everyone. However it doesnt solve all our network and fleet challenges. We still have to reassess our E135/145 flying and also reassess how we manage our network in Milwaukee."
The remaining three 170's in the branded op will be going to the UAL CPA.
The 135/145's are becoming "frontier express", and will operate on a pro-rata agreement between chautuaqau and frontier airlines. This move doesn't save money but it moves the branded loss over to the fixed fee side.
Brand will only operate 320, 319, and 190's.
F9:
markets which are all or singificantly Airbus or Ejet
91.2% .. MCO
88.5% .. LAS
87.8% .. DEN
87.4% .. FLL
86.6% .. LAX
83.9% .. DFW
82.8% .. PHX
81.3% .. RSW
80.7% .. TUS
78.6% .. MSP
75.2% .. PIE
69.3% .. SAT
63.0% .. MCI
62.4% .. RDU
60.9% .. EWR
58.3% .. LGA
53.5% .. BOS
51.6% .. DCA
Frontier Express (All or mostly ER4/ER3)
84.6% .. BNA
78.2% .. DSM
76.8% .. FNT
73.3% .. IND
72.7% .. GRR
69.9% .. BDL
69.4% .. STL
67.2% .. MSN
66.8% .. GRB
66.5% .. OMA
64.4% .. PIT
64.4% .. ATW
64.2% .. CMH
62.3% .. SDF
59.7% .. PHL
58.5% .. CLE
56.4% .. DAY
Air Tran:
AirTran mainline
91.3% .. MCO
88.4% .. FLL
88.1% .. SFO
87.8% .. RSW
85.9% .. LAS
85.5% .. LAX
77.7% .. PHX
77.2% .. TPA
73.3% .. SEA
71.8% .. ATL
71.5% .. MSY
70.7% .. MSP
69.7% .. SRQ
62.3% .. DEN
61.2% .. LGA
51.3% .. BOS
47.6% .. BWI
47.4% .. DCA
Southwest
93.4% .. PHX
91.0% .. LAS
86.6% .. MCO
79.4% .. TPA
56.9% .. MCI
55.5% .. BWI
AirTran FL* operated by Skywest CRJ
64.3% .. CAK
58.8% .. IND
57.1% .. STL
54.1% .. DSM
52.6% .. PIT
49.3% .. OMA
markets which are all or singificantly Airbus or Ejet
91.2% .. MCO
88.5% .. LAS
87.8% .. DEN
87.4% .. FLL
86.6% .. LAX
83.9% .. DFW
82.8% .. PHX
81.3% .. RSW
80.7% .. TUS
78.6% .. MSP
75.2% .. PIE
69.3% .. SAT
63.0% .. MCI
62.4% .. RDU
60.9% .. EWR
58.3% .. LGA
53.5% .. BOS
51.6% .. DCA
Frontier Express (All or mostly ER4/ER3)
84.6% .. BNA
78.2% .. DSM
76.8% .. FNT
73.3% .. IND
72.7% .. GRR
69.9% .. BDL
69.4% .. STL
67.2% .. MSN
66.8% .. GRB
66.5% .. OMA
64.4% .. PIT
64.4% .. ATW
64.2% .. CMH
62.3% .. SDF
59.7% .. PHL
58.5% .. CLE
56.4% .. DAY
Air Tran:
AirTran mainline
91.3% .. MCO
88.4% .. FLL
88.1% .. SFO
87.8% .. RSW
85.9% .. LAS
85.5% .. LAX
77.7% .. PHX
77.2% .. TPA
73.3% .. SEA
71.8% .. ATL
71.5% .. MSY
70.7% .. MSP
69.7% .. SRQ
62.3% .. DEN
61.2% .. LGA
51.3% .. BOS
47.6% .. BWI
47.4% .. DCA
Southwest
93.4% .. PHX
91.0% .. LAS
86.6% .. MCO
79.4% .. TPA
56.9% .. MCI
55.5% .. BWI
AirTran FL* operated by Skywest CRJ
64.3% .. CAK
58.8% .. IND
57.1% .. STL
54.1% .. DSM
52.6% .. PIT
49.3% .. OMA
05-17-2011, 10:14 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by SD3FR8DOG
After what happened to Midwest i am bitter towards Republic and sincerely hope they go Chapter 7. Would love to see Bedford handing out flyers at home depot or selling encyclopaedias door-to-door. .
05-17-2011, 10:54 AM
#37
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Posts: 386
Of course not, i don't wish any pilots or employees at any company ill-will, I have friends there and they feel the same way about their management and most are on their way out to something better. I would gladly help any pilot there try to get something better for themselves.
If you hold hopes of a job at one of the few remaining jobs with livable terms and conditions you would share the desire for a scope side-stepping, poverty wage level providing company that already destroyed one decent airline (Midwest) and now has another (Frontier) in its grips to suffer some setbacks on its quest to transform the North American aviation industry into $23/Hr pilot positions.
(Rant over.)
P.S FWIW not affiliated with Midwest, Republic nor Frontier.
If you hold hopes of a job at one of the few remaining jobs with livable terms and conditions you would share the desire for a scope side-stepping, poverty wage level providing company that already destroyed one decent airline (Midwest) and now has another (Frontier) in its grips to suffer some setbacks on its quest to transform the North American aviation industry into $23/Hr pilot positions.
(Rant over.)
P.S FWIW not affiliated with Midwest, Republic nor Frontier.
05-17-2011, 11:19 AM
#38
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,408
Originally Posted by SD3FR8DOG
Of course not, i don't wish any pilots or employees at any company ill-will, I have friends there and they feel the same way about their management and most are on their way out to something better. I would gladly help any pilot there try to get something better for themselves.
If you hold hopes of a job at one of the few remaining jobs with livable terms and conditions you would share the desire for a scope side-stepping, poverty wage level providing company that already destroyed one decent airline (Midwest) and now has another (Frontier) in its grips to suffer some setbacks on its quest to transform the North American aviation industry into $23/Hr pilot positions.
(Rant over.)
P.S FWIW not affiliated with Midwest, Republic nor Frontier.
If you hold hopes of a job at one of the few remaining jobs with livable terms and conditions you would share the desire for a scope side-stepping, poverty wage level providing company that already destroyed one decent airline (Midwest) and now has another (Frontier) in its grips to suffer some setbacks on its quest to transform the North American aviation industry into $23/Hr pilot positions.
(Rant over.)
P.S FWIW not affiliated with Midwest, Republic nor Frontier.
05-17-2011, 06:37 PM
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Posts: 4,949
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Or you could just be supportive of a better contract. You're only one away from being the next place to be.
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