ASA to lose 8 CRJ700's
08-24-2011 | 04:04 AM
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50 x 3 = 150, 70 x 2 = 140, that should fill a 737 or 320 just fine.
Somebody doesn't understand this business too well...
08-24-2011 | 06:45 AM
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+1
When you're trying to run connecting traffic, you're going to need to keep frequency in markets. Imagine taking an originating flight out of a station, only to sit until late evening for an international connection. Time=money to the people that pay us the top dollar for our seats....as opposed to the $49 cheap, 'search by price' alternatives. We can make up for a lot fewer seats sold if we can drive a revenue premium with frequency.
When you're trying to run connecting traffic, you're going to need to keep frequency in markets. Imagine taking an originating flight out of a station, only to sit until late evening for an international connection. Time=money to the people that pay us the top dollar for our seats....as opposed to the $49 cheap, 'search by price' alternatives. We can make up for a lot fewer seats sold if we can drive a revenue premium with frequency.
08-24-2011 | 07:17 AM
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I really find this topic ironic. RJ guys fighting over MAINLINE flying! Who do you think you guys got this flying from in the first place? At some point YOUR company was the lower bidder and reduced the number of mainline jobs commensurately.
When ASA, GoJet, TSA, ExpressJet, Skywest etc all start marketing and selling tickets on their own flights then perhaps you could have an argument. But as it stands now you guys rely on the name of the mainline corporation and the infrastructure it provides to be the "lowest" bidders.
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When ASA, GoJet, TSA, ExpressJet, Skywest etc all start marketing and selling tickets on their own flights then perhaps you could have an argument. But as it stands now you guys rely on the name of the mainline corporation and the infrastructure it provides to be the "lowest" bidders.
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08-24-2011 | 07:26 AM
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Yeah we all understand the scope argument by now. We don't need you to lecture us. I believe I was in middle school when the majors gave up scope on RJ's. If you want the flying back at mainline (and I think all of us do) then you are the only one in the position to do that. The question is where do we go from here? Pointing the fingers at the regional guys for "stealing" flying is getting old. Maybe I should just refuse to fly my next flight so the Delta pilots don't get mad at me.
08-24-2011 | 07:35 AM
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08-24-2011 | 07:49 AM
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Couldn't agree more with you analysis of "places to be", keeping in mind that pilots don't determine furloughs, culture, business plans, fleet plans, etc.... The paradigm has absolutely changed. It will change again. The 50's are dead, and the 70' are growing, but the 90-110 seat market will decide the future, IMHO.
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Bingo! Anyone want to guess how many 50's are currently flying in the US?
08-24-2011 | 07:50 AM
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I think we are all missing where the blame lies here. Not regarding scope or any other industry issues, just plain ASA, we should be blaming management. They are the ones running this airline, the ones responsible for keeping our jobs and food on our tables. Our performance had been in the toilet for a long time now. Perhaps that is another deciding factor in our loss of flying. We need our management to step up and run this airline like it is supposed to be. I understand that we are in the process of merging and it must be a daunting task, but we are still running an airline here. Stop sending out email about us working hard and you appreciating it, and start leading and practicing what you preach. We all work hard every day to run this place, we expect the same from you BH and friends. Sometime I feel like the only people running this place are the front line employees.
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