Gulfstream Int Airlines
#211
Anyways I just got the offer so off I go.
#212
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With this new "bond" are you not part of the "race to the bottom" anymore per-say? Is this more legit then what they previously did? I got offered an interview as well but have a really good, non-flying, job about to start. Plus I have a possible interview at a Dash operator; I'll know next week.
I always feel like I have to appease everyone I meet, I guess it's just my nature, and I don't want to go the interview and feel obligated to take the job. Just trying to get all the information. With their expansion, it could lead to something but you never know.
I always feel like I have to appease everyone I meet, I guess it's just my nature, and I don't want to go the interview and feel obligated to take the job. Just trying to get all the information. With their expansion, it could lead to something but you never know.
There are lots and lots of operators who either have training contracts(bonds), and even more who require you to already have a type, AND time in type. Look around at the 135 operators and you'll see what I am talking about. And, FWIW, the 135 operators are mostly considered "low time positions" like GIA would be(AmFlight/AirNet/Flight Express/MartinAir, etc). It's part of not wanting to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to train many people who will walk as soon as something better comes along.
I'd also like to add that I'm not sticking up for GIA.
#213
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There are lots and lots of operators who either have training contracts(bonds), and even more who require you to already have a type, AND time in type. Look around at the 135 operators and you'll see what I am talking about. And, FWIW, the 135 operators are mostly considered "low time positions" like GIA would be(AmFlight/AirNet/Flight Express/MartinAir, etc). It's part of not wanting to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to train many people who will walk as soon as something better comes along.
I'd also like to add that I'm not sticking up for GIA.
I'd also like to add that I'm not sticking up for GIA.
Thanks for the reply!
#214
'Training contracts" are all over the place - not just in aviation.
Even in the military - you owe time after attending certain schools or attending certain advanced training courses. You owe time on station after PCSs.
It is crazy to think that any company - good or bad - could afford to spend THOUSANDS of dollars on **marketable** training, just to see 50% of its' people leave for any reason.
I challenge anyone running a business, even those of those on the forum here who tink they could run the airlines better than aeveryone else - to make a business work with that cost structure. Even if you were the boss of all bosses and wanted to give your people bonus after bonus - it would be depleted by having to recoup training costs never regain.
You should look at it as one poster said. If you don't think that you can't give them the minimum amount of time, then don't go. If that dream job comes along (as has happened), then if required, buy them out.
It is a contract. If you don't like the fact that they may be able to cut you loose with no minimum pay required to you then either get it in the contract (other secotrs of provate industry are able to do this), but you will probably not see this in aviation; so if you aren't comfortable with it then don't sign.
My points here have nothing to do with GIA specific but more of a commentary on these trainng contracts anywhere.
USMCFLYR
Even in the military - you owe time after attending certain schools or attending certain advanced training courses. You owe time on station after PCSs.
It is crazy to think that any company - good or bad - could afford to spend THOUSANDS of dollars on **marketable** training, just to see 50% of its' people leave for any reason.
I challenge anyone running a business, even those of those on the forum here who tink they could run the airlines better than aeveryone else - to make a business work with that cost structure. Even if you were the boss of all bosses and wanted to give your people bonus after bonus - it would be depleted by having to recoup training costs never regain.
You should look at it as one poster said. If you don't think that you can't give them the minimum amount of time, then don't go. If that dream job comes along (as has happened), then if required, buy them out.
It is a contract. If you don't like the fact that they may be able to cut you loose with no minimum pay required to you then either get it in the contract (other secotrs of provate industry are able to do this), but you will probably not see this in aviation; so if you aren't comfortable with it then don't sign.
My points here have nothing to do with GIA specific but more of a commentary on these trainng contracts anywhere.
USMCFLYR
#215
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I completely agree on the training bond. Makes perfect sense. I'm more curious about GIA, now, in the eyes of my peers. I know it may sound shallow and all but I really don't want to be "that guy." That is why I'm trying to get all opinions, good and bad.
#216
Dont start living your life around what others may think you are. Only you know who you are as a man and thats all that matters, especially not some random internet blowhards on a forum.
#217
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GIA seems pretty aggressive in their hiring, are they expecting that much growth?
#218
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