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Old 01-17-2012 | 05:32 AM
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From my limited experience in both King Air's and the 1900 they maybe easy to hand fly, but the task of hand flying 7-8 legs a day is brutal. The whole 250 to the marker is wonderful, but let's step back and think about this. Every thing happens a whole lot faster in this scenario and I mean way faster and there is no AP to intercept and do all the work for you. I understand that in a jet it's all about the energy management, but how often are you not configured for the approaches at a decent distance out from the airport? How often do you hand fly approaches? Some can say well I do it as often as I can and that's great, but 1900 people don't have that option. It's all the time and the other side of the argument is you don't do the typical 6-8 legs that at least at my company is the norm. From what I hear from people who fly both is that the AP has to be there for the jet. It can do a better job than we can 9/10 times so why not use it? I'm not trying to say o it's a harder plane to fly therefore I'm more tough because right about now I'm ready to bail from the darn thing.
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Old 01-17-2012 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
From my limited experience in both King Air's and the 1900 they maybe easy to hand fly, but the task of hand flying 7-8 legs a day is brutal. The whole 250 to the marker is wonderful, but let's step back and think about this. Every thing happens a whole lot faster in this scenario and I mean way faster and there is no AP to intercept and do all the work for you. I understand that in a jet it's all about the energy management, but how often are you not configured for the approaches at a decent distance out from the airport? How often do you hand fly approaches? Some can say well I do it as often as I can and that's great, but 1900 people don't have that option. It's all the time and the other side of the argument is you don't do the typical 6-8 legs that at least at my company is the norm. From what I hear from people who fly both is that the AP has to be there for the jet. It can do a better job than we can 9/10 times so why not use it? I'm not trying to say o it's a harder plane to fly therefore I'm more tough because right about now I'm ready to bail from the darn thing.
Autopilot or No autopilot 7-8 legs a day is brutal. But while its commendable that 1900 pilots handfly all day, the difficulty of such a task is over-exaggerated. The plane is so stable it almost doesn't need an autopilot. Flies like a Duchess. The plane was truly built by geniuses.
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Old 01-17-2012 | 08:47 AM
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Ok guys, put your measuring sticks away.

Nobody really cares where you get your time as long as you meet the published minimums.

I seriously doubt many people care where you get your flight time as long as you can get through training and, most importantly, aren't the type of person who makes the other guy want to suck on a 9mm and end it all during a 4 day.
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Old 01-17-2012 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Ok guys, put your measuring sticks away.

Nobody really cares where you get your time as long as you meet the published minimums.

I seriously doubt many people care where you get your flight time as long as you can get through training and, most importantly, aren't the type of person who makes the other guy want to suck on a 9mm and end it all during a 4 day.
agreed. lets get back to the original topic shall we?
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Old 01-17-2012 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Autopilot or No autopilot 7-8 legs a day is brutal. But while its commendable that 1900 pilots handfly all day, the difficulty of such a task is over-exaggerated. The plane is so stable it almost doesn't need an autopilot. Flies like a Duchess. The plane was truly built by geniuses.
That's good to hear the sim is working me out and there is moments where I feel like the job is going to be too much for me. Thanks for the input.
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Old 01-17-2012 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FSUpilot
agreed. lets get back to the original topic shall we?
So is the 135 hard to fly?
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Old 01-17-2012 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Autopilot or No autopilot 7-8 legs a day is brutal. But while its commendable that 1900 pilots handfly all day, the difficulty of such a task is over-exaggerated. The plane is so stable it almost doesn't need an autopilot. Flies like a Duchess. The plane was truly built by geniuses.
You mean it has been modified like crazy!!! But you hear from allot of people that the 1900 and the SF340 are great flying airplanes unlike their cousin french pig (ATR)
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Old 01-17-2012 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
So is the 135 hard to fly?
I hear it's like a sports car, when compared to the 145!
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Old 01-17-2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
So is the 135 hard to fly?
how should i know? never flown it.
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Old 01-17-2012 | 10:04 AM
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EMB creates bad habbits....especially when it comes to landing the aircraft...the trailing link landing gear makes horrible pilots look good.... Whenever I have a new capt upgrading from the emb to the crj I know I am going to see some interesting landings... Unless they had turboprop experience in the past and didnt gain all their experience on embryo.
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