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Old 01-15-2012 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Laxrox43
Gee you sound like you went to one of those pilot factory flight schools. I've flown both. It takes more skills, knowledge, and flying ability to manhandle a turbo-prop. Enough said.
Flying itself aside. TP time is inferior to jet time. After speaking to various recruiters from various companies, ESPECIALLY overseas, a jet guy is more likely to get on somewhere then a turbo-prop driver (unless he is applying at a turbo-prop carrier). Even if it does take more piloting skills and effort to fly a turbo-prop properly. And I have been flying one for the past 3.5 years.. and wish I could replace it with jet time, being as that is what lots of employers seem to prefer.

Stupid? Yes, but it seems to be the case, more and more here in the U.S, where traditionally that hasn't been the case, but especially anywhere overseas, where your TP time is about as good as piston time.
It's all relative in many ways. The RJ CA may get the interview call before the prop CA but you never know who will be sitting across from you during your interview. You just may find yourself being interviewed by a check airman who came up on props and appreciates the skill set of prop pilots vs jet pilots.

You never know
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Old 01-15-2012 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by g-code
The memo said the 5 135s were for additional block hours....
"Along the same lines, we were able to negotiate the addition of five ERJ135s that have either been parked or have been operating at other United Express carriers. These additional aircraft will go into service in April."

Don't think it said that....
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Old 01-15-2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
If that were true they would pay people more money to fly turbo props. All ATP's has a jet transition course you can take to get you back up to speed on the jets. I would hurry up and get your 1000 jet pic if you want to catch the next big wave of hiring at the majors. They are going to pass right over the guys with turbo prop only time.
If this is the case then a Boeing product should pay more than an Airbus, an MD-80 should pay more than a 757... A 767 pilot should be paid more than a 777 pilot because they have to fly the 757/767 (more information required to know). What is your flight experience and I am not just talking TT, what airplanes have you flown and for how long?
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Old 01-15-2012 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I have never had to leave bags in the Q400 even with a full flight. It is rare to get the aft baggage compartment full, and the few times it does happen, we just put the extra in the forward hold. Also, the newer Q400s have nearly normal sized overhead bins, so fewer bags get gate checked than on most RJs.
Not according to BWI, DCA, and MHT station ops. I have taken bags that couldnt fit in the prior flight and it was a normal thing in bwi because the rampers were ****y. It isn't a big deal but it does happen.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
Not according to BWI, DCA, and MHT station ops. I have taken bags that couldnt fit in the prior flight and it was a normal thing in bwi because the rampers were ****y. It isn't a big deal but it does happen.
Well rampers are not always the best sources for information on aircraft. I have never worked a flight where we had to leave bags or passengers behind because of weight problems. Only once we had to burn off 60 lbs of fuel before takeoff to accommodate a full load of passengers, bags, a jumpseater, and about 2,000 lbs of extra fuel. So you can either listen to a ramper who has a hard time remembering how many bags can go into the aft baggage compartment and usually fills out the load sheet incorrectly, or you can listen to people who fly the aircraft.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 11:52 AM
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in the years i been on the q, the only time we dont take all the bags is when they dont show up on time....other then that there was only once where we took bags (4 or 5) out of the back into the cabin to get a jumpseater on for weight, and that night we had bad weather and tanks almost full...she can haul it all
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Old 01-15-2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Well rampers are not always the best sources for information on aircraft. I have never worked a flight where we had to leave bags or passengers behind because of weight problems. Only once we had to burn off 60 lbs of fuel before takeoff to accommodate a full load of passengers, bags, a jumpseater, and about 2,000 lbs of extra fuel. So you can either listen to a ramper who has a hard time remembering how many bags can go into the aft baggage compartment and usually fills out the load sheet incorrectly, or you can listen to people who fly the aircraft.
Depending on the station, I'll take the ramper's word any day of the week over the pilot. But I'm biased. I used to load bags for Horizon before getting hired to fly at XJT. Hub rampers suck but most outstation employees are usually way more educated than you think. The majority of our rampers in Boise held bachelor's and master's degrees in technical fields. They were just there part time to get flight benefits or insurance for their families if they ran their own business.

Pilots, especially new hires in the last 6 years, well let's just say C's get degrees seems to have been the motto.

That said. The Q400 is an absolute beast. Usually we wouldn't bulk out the pit unless we were taking over 120 bags. My record in the aft pit was 123 bags and I still had 800lbs of floor weight left to play with if I'd have had the room.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 03:13 PM
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I rather be in an embraer jet than the last row in a 757 no matter how long the flight is. Love when you get the geriatric lineup to the bathroom about 1 hour into the flight with everyone monkey swinging on your setback. Not being able to stand up straight sucks, but never having a middle seat and not running out of overhead space is priceless.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by etflies
It does amuse me when im walking out to the airplane for my next flight and a passengers asks methis old the Q400 they're looking at is. I had one guy tell me I was wrong when I told him the airplane wasn't yet a month old. Oh well.
My standard answer for when the Saab was made is sometime during WWII.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Pilot
Depending on the station, I'll take the ramper's word any day of the week over the pilot. But I'm biased. I used to load bags for Horizon before getting hired to fly at XJT. Hub rampers suck but most outstation employees are usually way more educated than you think. The majority of our rampers in Boise held bachelor's and master's degrees in technical fields. They were just there part time to get flight benefits or insurance for their families if they ran their own business.
I never questioned the general intelligence of rampers, just their specific knowledge on aircraft. I no some get the Dash 200 and 300 mixed up. I wouldn't be surprised if a ramper heard a Q200 couldn't take all the bags and then retold that info as a Q having to leave some bags behind causing the next person assume they meant a Q400.
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