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Old 01-15-2012 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Pilot
Depending on the station, I'll take the ramper's word any day of the week over the pilot. But I'm biased. I used to load bags for Horizon before getting hired to fly at XJT. Hub rampers suck but most outstation employees are usually way more educated than you think. The majority of our rampers in Boise held bachelor's and master's degrees in technical fields. They were just there part time to get flight benefits or insurance for their families if they ran their own business.

Pilots, especially new hires in the last 6 years, well let's just say C's get degrees seems to have been the motto.
Master's degrees? Yes. You are biased. Newarkblows mentioned BWI rampers in his case study. Not sure how close that is to Boise in terms of demographics.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 09:11 PM
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Do yourself a favor and apply at Expressjet now. Flying the jet takes more skill than a turboprop and it will better prepare you for a job at the majors. If you were a recruiter at Delta who would you rather hire, a pilot of an antiquated dangerous turbo prop or a jet pilot?
Are you kidding? If I were a recruiter at Delta, I would hire a B1900 guy over an RJ guy any day of the week. The B1900 guy will know how to FLY the airplane because that's what they have to do with no autopilot. It's all RAW flying which would make that guy much more proficient. I'm not saying that an RJ guy doesn't know how to fly the airplane because that would simply be a lie but some RJ guys would be more apt to rely on automation rather than flying the darn airplane. I don't know who the hell told you that flying a jet takes more skill but I think that you're HIGHLY mistaken.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 09:14 PM
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If that were true they would pay people more money to fly turbo props. All ATP's has a jet transition course you can take to get you back up to speed on the jets. I would hurry up and get your 1000 jet pic if you want to catch the next big wave of hiring at the majors. They are going to pass right over the guys with turbo prop only time.
Again making yourself sound foolish. If there was a turboprop that carried 300+ people, I would guarantee that it would pay close to equal of what the majors are paying to fly a 737 or bigger. You do sound like you have "the shiny jet syndrome" though.
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Old 01-15-2012 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
It's all relative in many ways. The RJ CA may get the interview call before the prop CA but you never know who will be sitting across from you during your interview. You just may find yourself being interviewed by a check airman who came up on props and appreciates the skill set of prop pilots vs jet pilots.

You never know
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Old 01-16-2012 | 03:26 AM
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Are you kidding? If I were a recruiter at Delta, I would hire a B1900 guy over an RJ guy any day of the week. The B1900 guy will know how to FLY the airplane because that's what they have to do with no autopilot. It's all RAW flying which would make that guy much more proficient. I'm not saying that an RJ guy doesn't know how to fly the airplane because that would simply be a lie but some RJ guys would be more apt to rely on automation rather than flying the darn airplane. I don't know who the hell told you that flying a jet takes more skill but I think that you're HIGHLY mistaken.
Yeh, because you r gona get alot of stick time at delta...give me a break
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Old 01-16-2012 | 03:43 AM
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Yeh, because you r gona get alot of stick time at delta...give me a break
Thats not the point...

People appreciate the hand flying skills of TProp pilots. Many of guys that will be doing the hiring for the next couple of years flew many of them in their career progression, so they certainly know what it takes and the skills one acquires flying one. They also get warm fuzzy feelings when they know a candidate can hand fly if all goes bad. With all that said jet time on the other hand is just as valuable for different reasons, I think the ideal candidate would have a mix of both IMO. Ask most mainline guys what they flew before they got where they are... 99% chance it was a turbo with a prop added on.
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Old 01-16-2012 | 04:28 AM
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Are you kidding? If I were a recruiter at Delta, I would hire a B1900 guy over an RJ guy any day of the week. The B1900 guy will know how to FLY the airplane because that's what they have to do with no autopilot. It's all RAW flying which would make that guy much more proficient. I'm not saying that an RJ guy doesn't know how to fly the airplane because that would simply be a lie but some RJ guys would be more apt to rely on automation rather than flying the darn airplane. I don't know who the hell told you that flying a jet takes more skill but I think that you're HIGHLY mistaken.
...my point exactly.
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Old 01-16-2012 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
Do yourself a favor and apply at Expressjet now. Flying the jet takes more skill than a turboprop and it will better prepare you for a job at the majors. If you were a recruiter at Delta who would you rather hire, a pilot of an antiquated dangerous turbo prop or a jet pilot?
Having types in turboprops, and one jet. That is a load of crap. A monkey can fly a jet, it does everything for you. I know numerous folks who got hired with prop pic time. It's a fact most regionals operate jets now a days, but prop time won't limit you. Experience in both doesn't hurt either.
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Old 01-16-2012 | 06:09 AM
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All this prop talk makes me warm and fuzzy inside.
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Old 01-16-2012 | 06:13 AM
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All this prop talk makes me warm and fuzzy inside.
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