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Old 04-03-2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
Im serious, has it ever been done??
yes...none other than the wonder RAH.
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Old 04-03-2012 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
Ya I wrote it.
Seems to be the norm when CH 11 is filed.
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Old 04-03-2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by vtx531
The current "Seniority" list is a damn scam anyways. I really hope they throw it out.

Unless you think seniority means a guy 2 years your junior who took the job at a bottom-feeder prop outfit should be able to take your seat and kick you to the street while getting a pay raise in the process.
Don't forget about their upgrade too!!! Someone hired at the company while I was furloughed gets to upgrade and then gets to take my seat on the jet while I get sent to the street for a second time? Yea screw that, I hope they furlough by DOH, it's only fair. I was offered an interview for Colgan in 2008 and I didn't take it and then I got an email from them after I was furloughed and still didn't take it. I didn't go to Colgan for a reason, I have career expectations too!
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Old 04-03-2012 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
Don't forget about their upgrade too!!! Someone hired at the company while I was furloughed gets to upgrade and then gets to take my seat on the jet while I get sent to the street for a second time? Yea screw that, I hope they furlough by DOH, it's only fair. I was offered an interview for Colgan in 2008 and I didn't take it and then I got an email from them after I was furloughed and still didn't take it. I didn't go to Colgan for a reason, I have career expectations too!
You were furloughed at Mesaba, right? Where would you be right now if Pinnacle had not have purchased Mesaba....yeah, still furloughed. All those Saabs would have been gone with no new flying for Mesaba. You would still be furloughed with more furloughs above you.

But the purchase did happen so....

...You were recalled to fill shortages on the PCL side and to fill LGA Saab flying that was obtained through Colgan. If not for that, you would have never been recalled and most likely been integrated as an "inactive pilot" on the ISL (That means you go to the bottom). You were too cool for the MOU but many of your fellow pilots on furlough took the MOU and were given jobs to feed their kids and pay the bills.

Get off that high horse man, it isn't a good look for you.
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Old 04-03-2012 | 01:19 PM
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Anyone have an estimate of how many pilots are going to be furloughed? Good luck to all affected.
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Old 04-03-2012 | 01:25 PM
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Anyone have an estimate of how many pilots are going to be furloughed? Good luck to all affected.
Rumor from HQ is up to 1200. Just a rumor with nothing to back it up..
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Old 04-03-2012 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by the juice
you were furloughed at mesaba, right? Where would you be right now if pinnacle had not have purchased mesaba....yeah, still furloughed. All those saabs would have been gone with no new flying for mesaba. You would still be furloughed with more furloughs above you.

But the purchase did happen so....

...you were recalled to fill shortages on the pcl side and to fill lga saab flying that was obtained through colgan. If not for that, you would have never been recalled and most likely been integrated as an "inactive pilot" on the isl (that means you go to the bottom). You were too cool for the mou but many of your fellow pilots on furlough took the mou and were given jobs to feed their kids and pay the bills.

Get off that high horse man, it isn't a good look for you.
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Old 04-03-2012 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MemphisJ
Rumor from HQ is up to 1200. Just a rumor with nothing to back it up..
Why would we furlough 1200 when we are only losing about 700-800 pilot's worth of airplanes?
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Old 04-03-2012 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Why would we furlough 1200 when we are only losing about 700-800 pilot's worth of airplanes?
Well when the airplanes you don't lose are flying less and your contract (work/scheduling rules) is gutted.. you don't need as many pilots.
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Old 04-03-2012 | 02:26 PM
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I took the MOU FYI, and maybe had the purchase not happened something else might have happened or maybe not. I came back and started flying 200s, cool. It still doesn't mean that I'm not ****ed about someone who was hired 2 months before I took the MOU got to upgrade to CA and will get to force me out into the street. Excuse me for being bitter about being on my 5th flying job in 6 years. I hope you enjoy your life.

I'm not blaming the pre-merger pinnacle pilots on this, I'm blaming the messed up seniority (if it can be called that) integration that happened afterwards. Colgan pilots got a windfall, I hope they enjoy it.
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