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Old 08-02-2012 | 05:21 PM
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What did they tell you about future hiring?

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Interesting, did they mention which side of the house you'll be flying on? CRJ side has had 3 classes in the past few months, and ERJ side has finished, so I'm curious which half is getting ready to spin up.

They did not mention specific hiring numbers but they are hiring, seems like 1100 TT/100 ME + ATP written and clean record is what they are looking for. As far as which side of the house its still unknown but they did say a new class date should be announced in the next few days.
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Old 08-03-2012 | 06:14 AM
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Not all pilots on the list have flow rights. Those hired after Compass was sold to Trans States do not have flow. Around 380 are eligible. The flow is the lesser of 25% of the list or 20 a month.
According to the most current list we have 316 eligable flow candidates left on the list. If DAL takes the max flows this year, that would be approximately 112 pilots from the list at a rate of 20 per month. Delta would have to hire for six months for this to happen. Unless both parties agree to an alternate agreement. So there are three years of flows at 100+ per 12 month period. You add to that, the guaranteed interview program for those of us who are not part of the flow, attrition COULD be extreme for a pilot group of only 448 (currently).
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Old 08-08-2012 | 10:27 AM
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Ok, the model has been reprogrammed to take into consideration flow-through agreements. The only substantial agreement that I am aware of is Compass. I'm still waiting to see what happens to Eagle over the next couple of months to implement their agreement.

Also on the Bottom of each regional page, I've put an Average Upgrade Calculator, for anybody not wanting to to try to chart their upgrade time on the Seniority Graph. Its pretty easy, if your currently hired just put in your current seniority % and if your not, put in you "hoped" for estimated hire year and it will compute it for you.

Pilots who have been watching the numbers closely will see that the Compass flow-through effect marginally effects most of the other regionals as it removes potential attrition slots in the model.

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Old 08-08-2012 | 01:00 PM
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Ok, the model has been reprogrammed to take into consideration flow-through agreements. The only substantial agreement that I am aware of is Compass. I'm still waiting to see what happens to Eagle over the next couple of months to implement their agreement.

Also on the Bottom of each regional page, I've put an Average Upgrade Calculator, for anybody not wanting to to try to chart their upgrade time on the Seniority Graph. Its pretty easy, if your currently hired just put in your current seniority % and if your not, put in you "hoped" for estimated hire year and it will compute it for you.

Pilots who have been watching the numbers closely will see that the Compass flow-through effect marginally effects most of the other regionals as it removes potential attrition slots in the model.

There is also a flow through with former Mesaba pilots up to around 100 something pilots at 9 a month to delta.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 11:44 AM
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I am having difficulty finding reliable information on a Mesaba flow through agreements, does anybody have good intel, or can affirm the previously mentioned numbers?
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Old 08-14-2012 | 06:00 AM
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I am having difficulty finding reliable information on a Mesaba flow through agreements, does anybody have good intel, or can affirm the previously mentioned numbers?
PilotAnalsyt, you obviously are smoking some really good crack. Are you selling a book or are you Kit Darby who has made a career out of selling Pilots a bunch crap.
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Old 08-15-2012 | 07:00 PM
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lol- I'm not sure if I've heard of Kit I had to look him up online. I hope the information and reports are helpful, I know I sure find them fascinating. I'm in the process of looking for volunteers to keep the model up to date. Feel free to let me know if your interested.
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Old 08-17-2012 | 06:29 AM
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lol- I'm not sure if I've heard of Kit I had to look him up online. I hope the information and reports are helpful, I know I sure find them fascinating. I'm in the process of looking for volunteers to keep the model up to date. Feel free to let me know if your interested.
If I didn't have school to deal with, I would consider it. Pursuing a second degree in Physical Therapy. Maybe after next summer hiring will return (ATP requirement), but I just can't waste my life waiting on aviation to correct itself.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 03:04 PM
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It's impossible to tell how many will flow at Eagle. Many people just don't want to go. If we are still in business... Eagle will probably have the most movement. 20 a month going to AA and who knows how many just going to all other airlines. Big possibility we will shrink too.
Also I think a few Piedmont guys can flow to USairways.
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Old 08-18-2012 | 03:38 PM
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AE isn't gonna shrink. If anything they're gonna hire like bonkers to fill up the massive influx of RJ flying from the 1113 term sheet.
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