When will eagle be receiving their 175s?

 

Never, Mason says they're going to AA I say they're going to RAH.

 

A flow-thru is significantly different from what they want to do. If successful, it will be industry shattering and set a whole new standard. Every other "regional" will suffer massive virtual overnight attrition as qualified proven pilots beat a bee-line for Eagle/AA.
The ensuing attrition will force industry consolidation on proportions not ever seen before.

That said, there are obstacles, and nothing is guaranteed. However, they do have a clear plan, and have been taking the steps necessary to implement their agenda and attain their objectives.

 

From what you've said it sounds like your idea is a B scale with a fence. AA hires pilots who start at AE on the 175 as a B scale APA pilot. Obviously there will be a side door for squadron buddies, sons/daughters, minorities to skip the AE job and go straight to mainline. While I agree with you it would cause a lot of people to apply at AE it's hardly industry shattering. B scales have been done before and the idea has been thrown around between APA and AE ALPA a few times in the past.

Your idea would be good for a lot of guys at AE so I hope it actually happens but I think the chances are extremely slim.

 

Nope, not a B scale. It's still a regional after all. They're just creating a clear way of filling every Eagle class with new hires during a pilot shortage.
50% of EVERY AA new hire class forever will be filled from Eagle flow thru's
That's the deal they're going to sell the Eagle pilots within the next 10 days.

I hear Glass (Airways bigwig) has a history of intentionally sending bad things just before important holidays or on Friday afternoons.

They'll get 190 planes
Flow thru for all
They'll lose
12/4 longevity scales
Per Diem freeze
401k contribution changes
Vacation
Lose 30 something million credit from some partial contract revision period after 4 years and lose the ability to negotiate more pay
There's more, but you should all know soon The company plans to spring the offer on them next Friday.

 

When you say "they", you mean us at Eagle? Who will lose?

 

If that's the carrot I'd hate to see the stick!

 

Hahahaha sounds like PSA deal. No thank you...

 

For your reference, the 30ish million you speak of of is a clause in the current contract that adjusts longevity to the 2nd lowest regional in the industry whom operates 150 airframes or more. There is a 30 something million dollar credit applied to that adjustment. This adjustment is set to take place around the midpoint of the 8 year contract, spring 2016.

 

okay, I didn't fully grasp the explanation while the discussion took place. Whatever this adjustment conference is; they want it to go away; since they now feel the lowest two pay scales will likely be raises for you guys. So, I'd look at what else may be hidden in there that would go away with it also.
They also want to increase benefit contributions. It does sound very much PSAish without a B scale, and with a whole lot more jets, and a much better flow thru program.
I'm fairly certain from taling with my nephew (at Eagle) that their new MEC is not likely to accept this either. The majority of them are of the opinion that the company will have to sweeten the flow-thru program just to attract new hires; and that they can't staff their current flying; will begin parking planes for lack of pilots soon, have returned block hours next year to us already, and they are convinced they'll have to give them at least some of the new planes anyway.
pretty ballsy