Delta to buy Pinnacle
01-04-2013 | 06:44 AM
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The entire PWA was NOT up for renegotiation on July 1, 2010. But the requirement to address the Compass LOA happened, didn't it?
Should Lee have ignored the sale of Compass to TSH?
Was the renegotiated deal better than the alternative for Delta pilots? For Compass pilots? If you are familiar with the pre-2010 flow through agreement, then you are familiar with the things that made it vulnerable.
01-04-2013 | 06:47 AM
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Plausible. Essentially kill it off in it's current form, resurrect as a zombie, then use it to terrorize the other villagers.
01-04-2013 | 07:02 AM
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I have watched the roadshows online. The union is trying to sell this TA to save the senior pilots jobs. The FOs that will be furloughed get only a 3000 longevity bonus while senior pilots get 24k. Yes they get 3 months pay, medical and pass travel but it still sucks. Even the union says this deal sucks but its the best they could do.
Anybody who understands how a typical top-heavy regional LEC works will have to agree with this.
01-04-2013 | 07:02 AM
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http://pclafa.org/resources/Final_FA...t_10-12-12.pdf
2nd year FA's make $20.61 at DOS
2nd year FO's make $33.10 at DOS
15+ year FA's make $32.61 at DOS
4th year FO's make $38.58 at DOS on 900 and $37.36 on the 200.
01-04-2013 | 07:16 AM
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The fact that FA and FO can even be compared or discussed is disgusting.
You're comparing someone who spent years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars with a lot of career deciding exams along the way in order to have dozens of lives in their hands..... with someone who graduated high school, didn't know what to do with their life, and thanks to a newspaper ad and a couple of weeks of memorizing speeches became a waitress with a set of wings on her uniform.
And people are considering voting yes for this. You're all as pathetic as what you're voting for. Sure is sad what we've become, isn't it?
You're comparing someone who spent years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars with a lot of career deciding exams along the way in order to have dozens of lives in their hands..... with someone who graduated high school, didn't know what to do with their life, and thanks to a newspaper ad and a couple of weeks of memorizing speeches became a waitress with a set of wings on her uniform.
And people are considering voting yes for this. You're all as pathetic as what you're voting for. Sure is sad what we've become, isn't it?
01-04-2013 | 07:34 AM
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The fact that FA and FO can even be compared or discussed is disgusting.
You're comparing someone who spent years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars with a lot of career deciding exams along the way in order to have dozens of lives in their hands..... with someone who graduated high school, didn't know what to do with their life, and thanks to a newspaper ad and a couple of weeks of memorizing speeches became a waitress with a set of wings on her uniform.
And people are considering voting yes for this. You're all as pathetic as what you're voting for. Sure is sad what we've become, isn't it?
You're comparing someone who spent years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars with a lot of career deciding exams along the way in order to have dozens of lives in their hands..... with someone who graduated high school, didn't know what to do with their life, and thanks to a newspaper ad and a couple of weeks of memorizing speeches became a waitress with a set of wings on her uniform.
And people are considering voting yes for this. You're all as pathetic as what you're voting for. Sure is sad what we've become, isn't it?
Then compare the 4th year rates for the Regional FO's:
Pinnacle: $38.58 at DOS on 900 and $37.36 on the 200
Compass: $39
Air Wisconsin: $41
Go Jet: $38
PSA: $37
Trans States: $38
Eagle: $39 Jet and $34 Prop
Express Jet: $39
Republic: $37
Skywest: $43, 42, 39 Jet and $33 Prop
Mesa: $34 Jet and $25 Prop
*All numbers were from APC Airlines links.
01-04-2013 | 07:53 AM
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Then compare the 4th year rates for the Regional FO's:
Pinnacle: $38.58 at DOS on 900 and $37.36 on the 200
Compass: $39
Air Wisconsin: $41
Go Jet: $38
PSA: $37
Trans States: $38
Eagle: $39 Jet and $34 Prop
Express Jet: $39
Republic: $37
Skywest: $43, 42, 39 Jet and $33 Prop
Mesa: $34 Jet and $25 Prop
*All numbers were from APC Airlines links.
Pinnacle: $38.58 at DOS on 900 and $37.36 on the 200
Compass: $39
Air Wisconsin: $41
Go Jet: $38
PSA: $37
Trans States: $38
Eagle: $39 Jet and $34 Prop
Express Jet: $39
Republic: $37
Skywest: $43, 42, 39 Jet and $33 Prop
Mesa: $34 Jet and $25 Prop
*All numbers were from APC Airlines links.
there you go confusing the blowhard hypocrites with facts.....please stop.....
01-04-2013 | 08:14 AM
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The fact that FA and FO can even be compared or discussed is disgusting.
You're comparing someone who spent years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars with a lot of career deciding exams along the way in order to have dozens of lives in their hands..... with someone who graduated high school, didn't know what to do with their life, and thanks to a newspaper ad and a couple of weeks of memorizing speeches became a waitress with a set of wings on her uniform.
And people are considering voting yes for this. You're all as pathetic as what you're voting for. Sure is sad what we've become, isn't it?
You're comparing someone who spent years of their life and tens of thousands of dollars with a lot of career deciding exams along the way in order to have dozens of lives in their hands..... with someone who graduated high school, didn't know what to do with their life, and thanks to a newspaper ad and a couple of weeks of memorizing speeches became a waitress with a set of wings on her uniform.
And people are considering voting yes for this. You're all as pathetic as what you're voting for. Sure is sad what we've become, isn't it?
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