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Old 01-13-2013 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer1
I'm sure its been mentioned, guess I missed it. When is the vote on the TA?
It closes on Jan 15. I would expect results to be announced very soon after it closes.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 11:52 AM
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I believe the vote closes tomorrow, tallied results available Tuesday, and court hearing on Wednesday.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 11:54 AM
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Avroman nailed it. Closes 1000 1/15.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 01:21 PM
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Awesome, fly the CRJ900 for less than 90% of the 50 seat pay scale with less vacation time, and 100's of furloughs....how about that uniform allowance? Medical premium increases, crap retirement and f/o pay to top out at 4 years...all for the opportunity to get an interview at Delta!

Oh boy, what a deal! And probably be shut down anyway.

Door # 2 please.

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Old 01-13-2013 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cavity
Awesome, fly the CRJ900 for less than 90% of the 50 seat pay scale with less vacation time, and 100's of furloughs....how about that uniform allowance? Medical premium increases, ****ti retirement and f/o pay to top out at 4 years...all for the opportunity to get an interview at Delta!

Oh boy, what a deal! And probably be shut down anyway.

Door # 2 please.
Not to mention hose all the other airlines in negotiations right now. Voting yes just makes it easier to whipsaw. We do it to our selves.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
Not to mention hose all the other airlines in negotiations right now. Voting yes just makes it easier to whipsaw. We do it to our selves.
It ain't about the others. They get to vote in their own TA's.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 03:11 PM
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It ain't about the others. They get to vote in their own TA's.
I think the point you are missing is that EVERY other CBA/TA is used against others who are in or about to enter Section 6. AWAC's current concessionary agreement is a direct result of a terrible CBA that was in effect at MESA at the time (2003).

We all understand that you have to look out after yourselves and do what is right for you, but to think that this has no effect on other pilot groups is monumentally naive.

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Old 01-13-2013 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cavity
Awesome, fly the CRJ900 for less than 90% of the 50 seat pay scale with less vacation time, and 100's of furloughs....how about that uniform allowance? Medical premium increases, crap retirement and f/o pay to top out at 4 years...all for the opportunity to get an interview at Delta!

Oh boy, what a deal! And probably be shut down anyway.

Door # 2 please.
Zip it. Until you're walking in our shoes shut the h$ll up. Or maybe offer something constructive. We haven't got any offers of help from any other MEC, and you just want us to roll over and help you.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Inside DEENA
I think the point you are missing is that EVERY other CBA/TA is used against others who are in or about to enter Section 6. AWAC's current concessionary agreement is a direct result of a terrible CBA that was in effect at MESA at the time (2003).

We all understand that you have to look out after yourselves and do what is right for you, but to think that this has no effect on other pilot groups is monumentally naive.

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Regionals all need to die. I'm ok with every regional going belly up regardless if they pay good or not. If they don't like the TA they negotiate then they can simply vote no.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JetBlast77
What are you talking about iron clad? DELTA OWNS PINNACLE. THEY DONT HAVE TO HONOR ANY AGREEMENTS. Thats like saying you bought a house but still have a lanlord and have to follow their rules.


You do.... It's called an HOA!!
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