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Old 03-06-2013 | 06:55 AM
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Pa28 I think I agree with your decision at this point. I don't really see any regional that is worth jumping ship for right now. The regionals cycle so much you never know who's going to be the "regional to be at" next month. As you said sounds like 9E has some things going for it after all.
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Old 03-06-2013 | 07:12 AM
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Well my person is also directly involved too.
haha well that makes sense. If that's the case then they have no idea how to handle it.
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Old 03-06-2013 | 07:17 AM
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You are correct. However, this is based on the company making no adjustments to the way it currently operates. There are many policies and procedures the company runs by that are very inefficient and obsolete. If they change some of those operating procedures there will be a need for less pilots. And a pilot costs more than the changes needed. Please don't drink the koolaid.

They want you to feel as if they need a break so when it comes time to take YOUR pay in order to make things work, remember this.
Really? seriously? do you read any of my posts? Koolaid? c'mon man! I think you just wanted to say it to somebody today didn't you?

Anyways, they wont implement changes to make our schedules efficient. What company do you work for?
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Old 03-06-2013 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
Pa28 I think I agree with your decision at this point. I don't really see any regional that is worth jumping ship for right now. The regionals cycle so much you never know who's going to be the "regional to be at" next month. As you said sounds like 9E has some things going for it after all.
Absolutely! I think what did it was I was able to hold my base which I live in. Things would have been different if the company didnt absorb the potential furloughs and hold secondary displacements on last bid. They know somethings coming. Of course it is all rumor...things could go sour here again fast and I could end up shooting myself in the foot. Im sitting tight for now though. :-)
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Old 03-06-2013 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pa28dakota
5-6 years to upgrade at XJT, or 5-6 years to maybe upgrade at 9E with almost 2 full years invested. In a way Im already in. I don't disagree with your logic and a couple months ago I was ready to jump immediately, but things are changing again at 9E (probably thanks to our concessions) and latest rumors are screaming more flying, delays in reduction of the CRJ-200s, possible CRJ-700 program since G7 is screwing up with Delta so bad, and such high attrition that our new fearless leader even said we may have to hire soon. That's what put the wrench in my decision to jump ship here just so you are fully informed on my personal situation.
Are you insane? You must be drinking some great kool-aid over there at PCL! If you think Delta is EVER going to grow a wholly owned sub, you need to talk to some Comair folks.

Rumors are not something to base career decisions on! ASA/XJT is about to have a mass exodus as UAL and then DAL begin hiring. I predict upgrade will be less than 3 years within two years. We will probably stop hiring by early summer since there's always a pulldown of the flying in the fall, then we will resume hiring in January. 9E is the Titanic, and I wouldn't risk passing up an open lifeboat if I were you.
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Old 03-06-2013 | 09:47 AM
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Are you insane? You must be drinking some great kool-aid over there at PCL! If you think Delta is EVER going to grow a wholly owned sub, you need to talk to some Comair folks.

Rumors are not something to base career decisions on! ASA/XJT is about to have a mass exodus as UAL and then DAL begin hiring. I predict upgrade will be less than 3 years within two years. We will probably stop hiring by early summer since there's always a pulldown of the flying in the fall, then we will resume hiring in January. 9E is the Titanic, and I wouldn't risk passing up an open lifeboat if I were you.
Comair is the only one it shrunk to oblivion and that is only because they went on strike. Every other wholey owned got built up, then spun off. Here's my optomistic prediction...another 30 CRJ-900s since XJT is too expensive now thanks to PCL to ever have a prayer of securing them...possible CRJ-700 flying....and when Delta is done...sell to SKW with the stipulation that the PCL side cannot be integrated with the rest so they can use our pilot group to whipsaw the rest into submission. That's the Delta game and the whipsaw is coming for XJT. Pessimistic prediction...PCL shrinks in early 2014 and the furloughs happen...then either Im already at a LCC (Im pretty high time) or then I go to whoever is growing (minus G7). The mass exodus you speak of will happen everywhere so that can't be a factor to conisder XJT over others. Anyone getting into a regional now will sit at the bottom of a list until the shrinkage of ALL regionals is complete into 2 super regionals and 3 to 4 smaller regionals that will be left when all is said and done. Only then will there be movement up the lists.
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Old 03-06-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
Really? seriously? do you read any of my posts? Koolaid? c'mon man! I think you just wanted to say it to somebody today didn't you?

Anyways, they wont implement changes to make our schedules efficient. What company do you work for?
Don't get me wrong. My post is somewhat generically oriented. Have no clue if you yourself buy into all of that crap. The company and pilot groups know that there are plenty of places to save cash and change policy to offset the impacts of staffing requirements needed in the future. But management is banking on all us naive pilots buying into their sob story. It's so much easier than actually doing something innovative but challenging.

Your post seemed as if you feel the only solution to the problem is to hire a significantly greater number than was quoted. I just wanted to point out there are other methods that are probably better in the long run for cost.

Lay off the grape drink!
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Old 03-06-2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony

Rumors are not something to base career decisions on! ASA/XJT is about to have a mass exodus as UAL and then DAL begin hiring. I predict upgrade will be less than 3 years within two years. We will probably stop hiring by early summer since there's always a pulldown of the flying in the fall, then we will resume hiring in January. 9E is the Titanic, and I wouldn't risk passing up an open lifeboat if I were you.
dont you contradict your self by saying that? Everything you just stated can go under the rumor category. The real question is what koolaid are you drinking?
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Old 03-06-2013 | 01:23 PM
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So DFW is a bit understaffed??? Eagle is having to pick up the slam
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Old 03-06-2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Don't get me wrong. My post is somewhat generically oriented. Have no clue if you yourself buy into all of that crap. The company and pilot groups know that there are plenty of places to save cash and change policy to offset the impacts of staffing requirements needed in the future. But management is banking on all us naive pilots buying into their sob story. It's so much easier than actually doing something innovative but challenging.

Your post seemed as if you feel the only solution to the problem is to hire a significantly greater number than was quoted. I just wanted to point out there are other methods that are probably better in the long run for cost.

Lay off the grape drink!
The regional model in itself is done. The rest rules and the ATP requirement will soon put an end to the nightmare. The only thing that will happen is a massive reduction in force do to majors taking back flying and a severe lack of qualified pilots willing to work for joke wages (no shortage). Mark my words, 5-6 years from now xjet will look nothing like it does today. We will shrink.
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