I think it is naive to think a Corporation is going to entrust its "Big Wig CEO's" in an "unsafe" part 91 Corporate Jet! It's a fact that part 121 carriers have outsourced aircraft maintenance to foreign countries some being 3rd world.
Link:
http://businesstravelcoalition.com/c...e_analysis.pdf

My comment was in regards to "Part 91 corporate flying". For those who haven't noticed, the rest of "general aviation" barely has a pulse so yes, you are correct, safety is certainly a concern!

 

Don't disregard that requirement for CC time. Take a flight across a couple weather systems and you will learn more about flying in that 20hrs than you did in the last 300hrs of locals.

 

It's always, ALWAYS, about the dollars.

The regionals can get all the pilots they want...they'll just have to up their game ($$ and QoL).

Say $20k/hr for FOs and $40k/yr for captains. X2 for QoL benefits. You'd probably get all the pilots you'd ever need.

What? Management doesn't want to pay that? Well, that's a different problem.

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Agree 100%. It's the starting pay and poor QOL that is keeping smart people out of the regional industry. All the regionals need to do is raise the standard and they'll get however many pilots they want. That's why this decreasing supply of qualified pilots is looking good for us right now. It makes our bargaining hand look a little better. Unless something else changes like the economy going down the toilet......again.

 

Pretty sure you know but in terms of the ATP you don't have to land at the airport 50 nm away. Just an FYI.

 

i think that is a tad unrealistic

 

I'd sure sign up for $20k/hr!

 

Not disregarding at all and you make a valid point for that is very valuable experience. The stupidity of it all is that I can get the additional needed time flying 51 mile legs, not crossing any weather systems, (with out stopping, yes I knew this thanks Da Magic) to meet the requirement. How that makes me some how "more qualified" is beyond me. If I can pass the written, which I already have and pass the check ride which at this time I can't take because of the asinine 500 hour rule, Issue the damn certificate, I flew to the PTS. This stuff really isn't that hard...And in reality all this ATP crap will do is push people who otherwise would be excellent pilots into other fields because of the additional investment of time and money for a job that's gonna pay you $23,00.00 your first year.....D

 

By reading the above and your position about needing more XC time to find an airport in airplane using an FMS tells me you think fundamental flying skills are useless or a joke. People who give me that attitude show me they aren't really maximizing or leveraging the flight time they are getting presently. I'm sure you'll shoot me an angry retort denying all of that, so you can just save your time now. Also, do you think the FMS/GPS is always going to work? This period of your flying career is about building a *solid foundation.*

Fifty miles is just the law...the law has cutoffs. Like the other poster said about going really far, yes that is more valuable. However, if you are going fifty miles and presumably coming back, there are still skills and experience built beyond just hanging around the practice area. If going fifty miles is so hard, be glad the law isn't more restrictive than that.

 

Look, I wasn't trying to say the airlines were perfect...in fact I added that the regionals in particular need to adjust their compensation (I prefer to avoid pigeon holing myself to just the word "pay").

With that said, and in light of the 1500 hour rule, I think the airlines have a smaller range from worst to best in terms of pilot qualifications and pilot treatment. Regionals will likely have to change their compensation to bring the bottom up. I think we are already seeing a little of that. I say good! Much needed!

Whereas corporate can be anything from a 152 to a BBJ....pilot qualifications and compensation vary just as widely. Part 135 is close in its wide variety of "flavors", but minimum hours are 500 and 1200. So to hear that corporate trumps all airlines as the other poster said...boy, are we assuming every corporate job is that great? I know many part 91 gigs that really are stepping stones to the regionals-especially the right seat 91 gigs! If we're going to make comparisons, let's keep them close to apples to apples. Lower tier 91 to lower tier 121 jobs, etc.