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Old 10-15-2013 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by exwaterski
I can't dispute any of that but like you said we're probably talking about a small handful not near the numbers they need. And if I were a US regional I don't know if I'd want a significant number of my pilots being UK/Euro foreign nationals I suspect they would be much harder to enslave than the homegrown pilots.
I agree. It was just the point that there's Euro pilots looking for jobs, that have the time and ability to work/abode in the U.S.

But honestly, they're not that different than the already recycled regional pilots taking a job for currency, or the mil pilots that are taking the job for currency. The regional has ZERO reservation hiring them either. They simply need 1500+ hour bodies.

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If they are just here to get experience and have few ties to the US I imagine a typical European would rather resign and go somewhere else than say move to an outstation base.
Agree.

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But this is all hypothetical I just don't see droves of Europeans wanting to come fly in the US it's a very different world from the 1990's. It's an interesting discussion but I just don't see it happening.
Agree again, I highly doubt it's "droves". And again, it's not the 90's. But the jobs are here, for now. As well as the opportunity, for now.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Please say where this is.
It can't be great mistakes, they didn't even pay for their own FO's to build time to keep current employees
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Old 10-15-2013 | 12:46 PM
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I imagine the big players will find a way to fill the seats but I don't see how the small players are going to avoid getting completely buried by the pilot shortage in the next couple of years. The Great Lakes of the world are going to have a tough time and it may be some of the small towns they serve simply won't have air service anymore subsidized or not. But at the risk of getting off topic if you think about it this is exactly what the law was designed to do and that is to bring 121 flying back up above the entry level. We'll see if they can leave it alone long enough to have it's intended effect.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 01:57 PM
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Can't get a part 121 flying job without being a lawful permanent resident first. Airlines are not going to nor would they be able to sponsor qualified applicants for a visa unless there is a clear "shortage" of applicants. Airline industry is no different to any other industry out there, lots of legal permanent residents working hard, paying tax.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 03:24 PM
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No one is going to post a "they took our jerbs" link or gif......maybe I am too old. If you don't get it ask your parents.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by unclenobby
Can't get a part 121 flying job without being a lawful permanent resident first. Airlines are not going to nor would they be able to sponsor qualified applicants for a visa unless there is a clear "shortage" of applicants. Airline industry is no different to any other industry out there, lots of legal permanent residents working hard, paying tax.
Right. Plus, it takes months or YEARS to get the OK to work. The airline isn't going to do this. This is a moronic thread started by a guy worried he won't get his shot because the foreigners are stealing jobs.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 05:14 PM
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Old 10-15-2013 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jayme
Right. Plus, it takes months or YEARS to get the OK to work. The airline isn't going to do this. This is a moronic thread started by a guy worried he won't get his shot because the foreigners are stealing jobs.
Um...cabotage is a legitimate concern of mine. And I don't know the laws about work permits for non-US citizens. No need to be a bully about it, jayme.
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Old 10-15-2013 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
I agree. It was just the point that there's Euro pilots looking for jobs, that have the time and ability to work/abode in the U.S.
Most of the pilots in Europe looking for work went through a fATPL integrated system that left them with just over 200 hours and the equivalent of $150k in debt. The ones who haven't found a job since completing their training don't qualify for even a regional job in this country and the FOs working at entry-level places like Ryanair or easyJet would only be competitive for a US regional airline, and that's AFTER getting their US ratings and the right to live and work here.

Regardless, career destinations like VA and BA are hiring, so pilots with experience are moving on to places like that, not holding out for a job in the US.

There are always exceptions, of course. Some have personal reasons for seeking employment in the US, but there is certainly no threat of European pilots flooding the US market.
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Old 10-16-2013 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by atr42flyer:1502075
Spoke to a friend of mine at Republic and he said that they have a lot of foreigners being hired. FYI
Yeah, they all have right to work and to live in this country. Some of them are even citizens, even one born here to foreign parents. Move on, nothing to see here ...
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