Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
Where will the American Eagle airplanes go? >

Where will the American Eagle airplanes go?

Search

Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

Where will the American Eagle airplanes go?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-13-2014 | 03:03 AM
  #61  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,485
Likes: 0
From: Taco Rocket Operator
Default

Originally Posted by minimwage4
Very doubtful. We can barely staff current planes. Only saving grace is lack of captain attrition. Also with our performance numbers don't be surprised if we don't get anymore extensions from UA. Tsa will be on life support untill the mrjs come.
Don't know where you've been but reserves aren't getting used much and every drop I've requested has been approved. We're pretty fat on pilots right now and continuing to hire. Something is up........
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 03:16 AM
  #62  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
Likes: 0
Default

purdueflyer is correct.
we cant keep fighting AAG just so the PSA or other take advantage and lower the bar to get flying. Lets see how long before AAG shows up at the PSA MEC door or are you at AAG office now.
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 03:26 AM
  #63  
minimwage4's Avatar
2 days off
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,853
Likes: 0
From: Embraer Systems Analyst
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Don't know where you've been but reserves aren't getting used much and every drop I've requested has been approved. We're pretty fat on pilots right now and continuing to hire. Something is up........
Lol something's always up! We may be able to drop trips right this second but will that last? They are hiring for anticipated attrition. It's not as optimistic as you might think, Tsa hasn't had new flying in years. We did get an extension on a whopping 6 planes though!
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 04:20 AM
  #64  
Line Holder
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
From: The Parlor
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Don't know where you've been but reserves aren't getting used much and every drop I've requested has been approved. We're pretty fat on pilots right now and continuing to hire. Something is up........
O boy here we go, something is always up with you. Nothing has happened yet though...
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 05:19 AM
  #65  
CaptKrunch's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
From: LeftSeat PA-44
Default

Originally Posted by CaptKrunch
Much like the eagle guys who post on the PSA thread?
You guys at PSA put Eagle in this position. They stood up once (told their union to kill b-scale) and them you stabbed them in the back and then they stood up again for the industry.

You guys at PSA stand alone. Congratulations you are the new Great Lakes of the industry.
Making our own history I see.
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 05:33 AM
  #66  
Captain Tony's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,967
Likes: 0
Default

This whole thread is so wrong it needs to be shut down. Nobody needs to be salivating and prognosticating who is going to get Eagle/Envoy's planes IF they shut down. And I seriously doubt they will, any more than we did after saying no at XJT.
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 05:55 AM
  #67  
thump's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: ERJ-170 CA
Default

Originally Posted by Joliet
What did Shuttle American fly before the E-Jet?
Wow this thread devolved quickly.

For the record, the Shuttle America situation does not apply. The Chautaqua E170s were causing millions in fines from APA and the Shuttle certificate was purchased as a place to put those aircraft since we were having trouble getting the Republic cert online. Prior to Chautauqua purchasing them, there were ZERO plans for the type on property. And the transition from Saab to E170 at Shuttle was facilitated by already having them on property at the same company.

Just making sure you've got the facts correct. Shuttle was not an E170 operator and had no plans to be one until the acquisition.
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 05:59 AM
  #68  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by CaptKrunch
Making our own history I see.
What is historically inaccurate about it?

1. AAG approached Eagle last summer and asked for a "B-scale." (more like a C-scale compared to mainline) The Eagle MEC listened to their pilots and told AMR to go pound sand. AAG said fine, we'll go to PSA and offer them a deal.

2. AAG goes to you guys at PSA and offers you an even worse deal than they offered Eagle (the B-scale offered to Eagle was only going to affect new hires, they could have easily thrown future generations under the bus) and you guys vote it in.

3. AAG comes back to Eagle and says, "Agree to PSA concessions or else….." The Eagle MEC listens to their pilots yet again and decides to kill the second offer.

You cut the legs out from Eagle when you took your deal. Eagle just made it easier for Air Whiskey and whoever else follows next to say no too.
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 06:02 AM
  #69  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Captain Tony
This whole thread is so wrong it needs to be shut down. Nobody needs to be salivating and prognosticating who is going to get Eagle/Envoy's planes IF they shut down. And I seriously doubt they will, any more than we did after saying no at XJT.
The only reason Eagle will disappear is if they run out of pilots. With their rate of attrition there is simply no way AAG will be able to replace them.

If Eagle is shutdown, it won't be because of a decision AAG made, it will be because the airline imploded.

I agree though, PSA pilots and everyone else who is salivating over Eagle's flying needs to stop.
Reply
Old 02-13-2014 | 08:14 AM
  #70  
CaptKrunch's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
From: LeftSeat PA-44
Default

Originally Posted by CaptKrunch
Much like the eagle guys who post on the PSA thread?
You guys at PSA put Eagle in this position. They stood up once (told their union to kill b-scale) and them you stabbed them in the back and then they stood up again for the industry.

You guys at PSA stand alone. Congratulations you are the new Great Lakes of the industry.
Eagle had a shot at the 900's before PSA did. It was a long shot that AAG even came back to eagle.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lbell911
Regional
35
03-13-2016 04:38 AM
Tsuda
American
0
12-18-2011 06:10 PM
withthatsaid182
Regional
12
04-01-2010 06:21 PM
Noleone
Regional
7
09-21-2007 07:24 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices