10K sign-on bonus with American Eagle
02-25-2014 | 09:22 PM
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Also you have to go to those select colleges and cannot come in with anything more than a private.... I was at Letourneau University (LETU) and they told me this after doing some training before enrolling at the college. i was in high school and got my instrument. they said i was a lost cause and they could not sign anything with me. so i left the college. no benefit the ATP restriction and the eagle pipeline program that the school promised was later told to the students "you have to get all your ratings, except private with us to be able to do this"
so after spending $6,000 on a tail dragger rating not including the schooling and asked to spend another $20k+ next semester on X/C time builder and schooling..... I left!
so after spending $6,000 on a tail dragger rating not including the schooling and asked to spend another $20k+ next semester on X/C time builder and schooling..... I left!
02-26-2014 | 12:39 AM
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How is a 3.9 GPA business degree from a "top 10 ranked public university" relevant to operating a commercial airliner? 
Whether you like it or not, airlines must clearly find better results with those candidates coming from aviation universities... or they would not be offering these bonuses. Aside from the actual flying, an aviation degree might also include curriculum in advanced aerodynamics, meteorology, human factors, flight physiology, aviation law... heck, even interpersonal communication. These are all subjects chosen to groom a well-rounded professional pilot and the results show.
Right now there are far fewer students enrolling in these types of courses. If airlines want to keep hiring from these universities, they will have to show some incentive to future prospects.
Whether you like it or not, airlines must clearly find better results with those candidates coming from aviation universities... or they would not be offering these bonuses. Aside from the actual flying, an aviation degree might also include curriculum in advanced aerodynamics, meteorology, human factors, flight physiology, aviation law... heck, even interpersonal communication. These are all subjects chosen to groom a well-rounded professional pilot and the results show.
Right now there are far fewer students enrolling in these types of courses. If airlines want to keep hiring from these universities, they will have to show some incentive to future prospects.
So how often when you're operating a commercial airliner do you use human factors, physiology(which I guarantee I have a better background in), or aviation law. Heck, how often do you even use your "advanced" aerodynamics or meteorology day to day? Last I checked, there are plenty of pilots coming from non-university programs operating very safely because they will teach you all the aircraft and operational specifics you need to be successful. What you do with that is up to you.
02-26-2014 | 01:40 AM
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02-26-2014 | 04:39 AM
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How is a 3.9 GPA business degree from a "top 10 ranked public university" relevant to operating a commercial airliner?
Whether you like it or not, airlines must clearly find better results with those candidates coming from aviation universities... or they would not be offering these bonuses. Aside from the actual flying, an aviation degree might also include curriculum in advanced aerodynamics, meteorology, human factors, flight physiology, aviation law... heck, even interpersonal communication. These are all subjects chosen to groom a well-rounded professional pilot and the results show.
Right now there are far fewer students enrolling in these types of courses. If airlines want to keep hiring from these universities, they will have to show some incentive to future prospects.
Whether you like it or not, airlines must clearly find better results with those candidates coming from aviation universities... or they would not be offering these bonuses. Aside from the actual flying, an aviation degree might also include curriculum in advanced aerodynamics, meteorology, human factors, flight physiology, aviation law... heck, even interpersonal communication. These are all subjects chosen to groom a well-rounded professional pilot and the results show.
Right now there are far fewer students enrolling in these types of courses. If airlines want to keep hiring from these universities, they will have to show some incentive to future prospects.
02-26-2014 | 05:14 AM
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02-26-2014 | 06:02 AM
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How is a 3.9 GPA business degree from a "top 10 ranked public university" relevant to operating a commercial airliner?
Unfortunately, past history has demonstrated to those of us in the industry for quite some time that the advantages of an "Aviation" degree are about zilch by the time someone is hireable at a reputable company.
However, the degree of rigor and dedication required to graduate from a good collegiate program says something about a candidates ability to learn and retain knowledge. Sorry to break it to the Riddle Diddles, but the difficulty of obtaining your degree (while no doubt not easy) is nowhere close to the same.
Whether you like it or not, airlines must clearly find better results with those candidates coming from aviation universities... or they would not be offering these bonuses.
No, not clear at all. Just trying to get folks that qualified for the 1000 hour exception. [/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, past history has demonstrated to those of us in the industry for quite some time that the advantages of an "Aviation" degree are about zilch by the time someone is hireable at a reputable company.
However, the degree of rigor and dedication required to graduate from a good collegiate program says something about a candidates ability to learn and retain knowledge. Sorry to break it to the Riddle Diddles, but the difficulty of obtaining your degree (while no doubt not easy) is nowhere close to the same.
Whether you like it or not, airlines must clearly find better results with those candidates coming from aviation universities... or they would not be offering these bonuses.
No, not clear at all. Just trying to get folks that qualified for the 1000 hour exception. [/QUOTE]
02-26-2014 | 06:27 AM
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Its obvious that having a degree, in aviation or not, doesn't necessarily mean one has critical thinking and analytical skills.
Is it possible the benefit to American Eagle of hiring pilots that have an aviation degree comes solely in the form of pilots eligible for reduced ATP minimums per 61.160(b)?
Nah, probably not.
Is it possible the benefit to American Eagle of hiring pilots that have an aviation degree comes solely in the form of pilots eligible for reduced ATP minimums per 61.160(b)?
Nah, probably not.
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