I do enjoy a good ol' white male privilege thread.

 

Edit: This thread can serve no useful purpose.

 

welcome to ameryka

 

This is relevant to my interests....

 

How would you know? The airlines never tell you why you weren't hired, just "Thanks, but no thanks." As long as they hire people 20 to 50, which they do, how are you going to prove it? Same for minorities. How to prove anyone not hired on a certain day was more qualified than someone hired?

When I interviewed at Delta, I was told in the interview room, "Every one sitting out there waiting to interview is qualified to be here. That is why we don't do sim rides. We know you know how to fly. This interview is to put a name to a face. My job is to keep DBs from making it to the line. If I can't stand to be in a room with you for 20 minutes, there's little chance someone wants to sit in a cockpit with you for 8 hours."

If you fail the face to face at Delta, you might want to take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror.

As for my interview, guess I fooled him!

 

They certainly do based on anecdotes from every Legacy hiring now. I've had friends in classes ages 25-50 and none of them were the oldest. One class at airways with a friend in it had over half the class over 45 and more than one over 50.

Want to get a call and get hired? Make sure your resume shows who you are. If there's nothing on there but your job, I don't know what to tell you.

 

I can't even begin to express how flawed this mentality is, and how angry this basis for hiring nonsense makes me. There is *no way* you can accurately depict if this is the case for everyone. Sure, there will be people walking through the door stinking of eau de toilette, but you can't tell me that people behave the same at a job interview vs. in the company of fellow pilots. I'll even add this. What are you talking about up there in that cockpit? I thought you are supposed to monitor the progress of the flight, manage the systems, negotiate procedures, communicate with ATC, and maintain situational awareness in the interest of safety and passenger comfort. If that's the case, what does my personality have to do with this? And after we get to the hotel, your time is your time, my time is my time. Don't tell me every captain hangs out with every FO/FA and vice versa all the time, every day, every trip.

At an interview, I'm putting my best foot forward, prim and proper. Behind closed doors, the inappropriate jokes, humor, sh!t talking, all comes out. And not for nothing, that's personality expressions that you will not get at an interview. Plus, just because the interviewer can't stand the guy, doesn't mean the rest of the pilot group who ACTUALLY flies with this guy, will feel the same way.

This is such a screwed up mentality to hire someone on.

 

You never get a second chance to make a first impression.

 

That sounds peachy. Pilots want to hire pilots they'll enjoy working with. That's why they have a hand in hiring.

Have you ever actually flown an 8-hour leg?

 

I was making a mockery out of that whole mentality.

I know what goes on in the cockpit. And yes, you don't want to fly with a stiff. I get it.

My point is, you're not going to correctly evaluate that at an interview setting. Behind closed doors, you're going to be amused about the way I banged my girlfriend the other night while my wife was home taking care of the kids. At an interview, that's just not going to fly.