Hiring Discrimination at Majors?
03-04-2014, 12:52 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja
Anyone experience hiring discrimination when applying to the majors?
Example, you're qualified, but in your 40's or 50's and the majors pass you over for a 20- or 30-something?
I've also heard stories that females get preferential hiring over equally experienced male counterparts at the majors.
Truth to any of this?
Example, you're qualified, but in your 40's or 50's and the majors pass you over for a 20- or 30-something?
I've also heard stories that females get preferential hiring over equally experienced male counterparts at the majors.
Truth to any of this?
03-04-2014, 01:00 PM
#52
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So...let's summarize:
1. Invest time, (a ton of) money, and effort into flight training and hope you don't have any failed check rides.
2. Work as a CFI or build time some how (paid for or not) to get 1,500 hours.
3. Come August, pay up to $15,000 for ATP certificate.
4. Apply to regional to make crap money as FO with the possibility of doing so for 10 years before upgrade to captain.
5. If lucky to upgrade to captain at regional, applying to majors is nothing more than who you know (unless you're female or a minority).
Awesome.
This should be a mandatory glossy poster at every flight school and academy.
1. Invest time, (a ton of) money, and effort into flight training and hope you don't have any failed check rides.
2. Work as a CFI or build time some how (paid for or not) to get 1,500 hours.
3. Come August, pay up to $15,000 for ATP certificate.
4. Apply to regional to make crap money as FO with the possibility of doing so for 10 years before upgrade to captain.
5. If lucky to upgrade to captain at regional, applying to majors is nothing more than who you know (unless you're female or a minority).
Awesome.
This should be a mandatory glossy poster at every flight school and academy.
03-04-2014, 01:23 PM
#53
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Posts: 4,695
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Don't get your panties in a wad. This place is full of people regurgitating things they heard from the most ridiculous of sources.
Research ANY post of mine. I'm not one of those that's here shotgunning bovine scatology and hoping it sticks.
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Without any background, why should I believe what you say? I never once said you were lying, just would like context so that it doesn't appear that you're talking out of your fudge factory.
Originally Posted by CBreezy
If I should ever meet someone in upper management PERSONALLY (cool story bro), I would share the insight.
Originally Posted by fosters
I know in 2006/2007, a new CA upgrade friend of mine (I was a junior FO) got hired at CAL. He said they didn't interview anyone past 6000 hours of TT, because if they hadn't gotten hired by then they were damaged goods. Made sense in a way, then age 65 and 2008 happened, and for those not able to make a move prior to that they sorta got screwed.
Funny, we ALL know people hired in that time frame with higher TT.
Last edited by John Carr; 03-04-2014 at 01:51 PM.
03-04-2014, 01:39 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by Doug Heffernan
Discrimination? No. Nepotism? Hell yes!! It's not what know, but who you know. I just found this out to be true.
At what airline have you found nepotism to be useful to you?
03-04-2014, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Just because you're black doesn't mean you should get an interview over a more qualified person.
03-04-2014, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Panties in wad? Hardly. But ya think your style lacked just a slight degree of tact? "ewwww ewwww, I'm calling you out/liar liar pants of fire prove it!!!!!".
Research ANY post of mine. I'm not one of those that's here shotgunning bovine scatology and hoping it sticks.
You're right, you DON'T have to believe me, or what anybody else on here says that is simply trying to relay information from a more credible source.
Like I said, PLEASE do. Share whatever you get. In the hopes of giving information to everybody that's that's a current rat in a maze looking for cheese, trying to get on at a legacy. You have a good day......
"cool story, bro......"
Funny, we ALL know people hired in that time frame with higher TT.
Research ANY post of mine. I'm not one of those that's here shotgunning bovine scatology and hoping it sticks.
You're right, you DON'T have to believe me, or what anybody else on here says that is simply trying to relay information from a more credible source.
Like I said, PLEASE do. Share whatever you get. In the hopes of giving information to everybody that's that's a current rat in a maze looking for cheese, trying to get on at a legacy. You have a good day......
"cool story, bro......"
Funny, we ALL know people hired in that time frame with higher TT.
03-04-2014, 02:07 PM
#58
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Posts: 4,695
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Why do I want to research what you've said in the past? So, you've been truthful before therefore eveything you say is fact? No thanks. Also, I said 4 words. Not sure how you get a childish rhyme from that. Usually when people say things, they provide context. So, your friends have had above 9000TT. Okay, as far as anyone could tell, that was your basis for saying the average for new hires was 9000. How was anyone supposed to know that you talked to the CP or anyone at United? Was that info from recruiters? Did you read it in an article? Maybe you heard it in the jumpseat? Saying broad sweeping generalizations like that without context sounds fishy.
"I'm am SO done talking to you like a man"
-Rust Cohle-
But IF I'm lucky enough to get hired, and I for some reason post in the "who's been hired" thread with my numbers for the sake of what the thread is about, and if for some reason you have a question, I'll GLADLY give you ANY info I have via PM. AGAIN, if it comes to it.
Enjoy where you're currently at if you've made it, or good luck in your pursuit of a better job, it's really no skin of my huevos........
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