Hiring Discrimination at Majors?
03-04-2014 | 08:05 PM
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I can't even begin to express how flawed this mentality is, and how angry this basis for hiring nonsense makes me. There is *no way* you can accurately depict if this is the case for everyone. Sure, there will be people walking through the door stinking of eau de toilette, but you can't tell me that people behave the same at a job interview vs. in the company of fellow pilots. I'll even add this. What are you talking about up there in that cockpit? I thought you are supposed to monitor the progress of the flight, manage the systems, negotiate procedures, communicate with ATC, and maintain situational awareness in the interest of safety and passenger comfort. If that's the case, what does my personality have to do with this? And after we get to the hotel, your time is your time, my time is my time. Don't tell me every captain hangs out with every FO/FA and vice versa all the time, every day, every trip.
At an interview, I'm putting my best foot forward, prim and proper. Behind closed doors, the inappropriate jokes, humor, sh!t talking, all comes out. And not for nothing, that's personality expressions that you will not get at an interview. Plus, just because the interviewer can't stand the guy, doesn't mean the rest of the pilot group who ACTUALLY flies with this guy, will feel the same way.
This is such a screwed up mentality to hire someone on.
At an interview, I'm putting my best foot forward, prim and proper. Behind closed doors, the inappropriate jokes, humor, sh!t talking, all comes out. And not for nothing, that's personality expressions that you will not get at an interview. Plus, just because the interviewer can't stand the guy, doesn't mean the rest of the pilot group who ACTUALLY flies with this guy, will feel the same way.
This is such a screwed up mentality to hire someone on.
03-04-2014 | 08:15 PM
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Anyone experience hiring discrimination when applying to the majors?
Example, you're qualified, but in your 40's or 50's and the majors pass you over for a 20- or 30-something?
I've also heard stories that females get preferential hiring over equally experienced male counterparts at the majors.
Truth to any of this?
Example, you're qualified, but in your 40's or 50's and the majors pass you over for a 20- or 30-something?
I've also heard stories that females get preferential hiring over equally experienced male counterparts at the majors.
Truth to any of this?
Aren't you the guy that gave all your money to JetU and now you are wondering why the majors won't hire you?
03-04-2014 | 08:28 PM
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03-04-2014 | 08:59 PM
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03-04-2014 | 09:10 PM
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03-04-2014 | 09:27 PM
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Totally agree with your disagree. 
MEMbrain, looks like he did CAPT, not Jet U. Similar expensive short cut attempt and similarly laughable.
FWIW- I was a single white male hired at DL (still white and male) with only a referral from a retired regular line pilot. Networking is key in aviation, but to say that who you know is everything is downright ignorant. It is a factor, but only one of many. Given the people that I work with, 99% of the time the screening has done it's job.
MEMbrain, looks like he did CAPT, not Jet U. Similar expensive short cut attempt and similarly laughable.
FWIW- I was a single white male hired at DL (still white and male) with only a referral from a retired regular line pilot. Networking is key in aviation, but to say that who you know is everything is downright ignorant. It is a factor, but only one of many. Given the people that I work with, 99% of the time the screening has done it's job.
03-05-2014 | 04:58 AM
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03-05-2014 | 07:22 AM
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The fact that airlines, and many many companies, give preferential hiring to woman and minorities, thereby discrimination against white males, is no secret.
Here s something that is no secret too... If you hire the most qualified people for a job, regardless of anything else, "diversity" will happen naturally.
Here s something that is no secret too... If you hire the most qualified people for a job, regardless of anything else, "diversity" will happen naturally.
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