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Old 03-04-2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
So, where are these statistics/data/studies to prove it? Or is it just your WAG?

In my new hire class, the only ones under 10k hours were 3 AF guys. No busts, additional IOE or anything else.
Many airlines have done performance driven pilot selection studies. Most of the information is shared between airlines who have conducted similar studies. There are undeniably strong correlations between the airlines' data suggesting that flight time is a weak predictor of a pilot's success on the line and/or in training. Unfortunately, higher flight times actually yield less favorable results.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
My sim partner was in 50s........
Endeavor just hired a 64 year old. So there
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Old 03-04-2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
But......but........but.......that WASN"T a legacy!!!!!!

(mass sarcasm)
Bawhahahahahahh. This is true
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Old 03-04-2014 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MARX
Many airlines have done performance driven pilot selection studies. Most of the information is shared between airlines who have conducted similar studies. There are undeniably strong correlations between the airlines' data suggesting that flight time is a weak predictor of a pilot's success on the line and/or in training. Unfortunately, higher flight times actually yield less favorable results.
It would be interesting to see that study and see the data points.

Oh man, I hope the airlines have realized what a bunch of liability they assumed when they hired all the pilots ABOVE whatever that magical TT number is!!

Do those pilots get allotted additional sim/IP/LCA time? They must. Never mind the guys ALREADY on property, camped out on one plane. THEN decided to either transition to another plane or god forbid, upgrade to a plane they've NEVER flown AND above that magical number. I'll bet they're really sweating that.

I truly, truly, TRULY feel sorry for the poor souls that can't grasp even the thickest sarcasm, facetiousness, and satire. As well as can't see how many studies can simply be proven not valid in all cases.

And on a more serious note, does that explain why DAL as an example hired some high time FO's with ZERO PIC in 2010 when there were SO MANY lower time pilots available?

Does that explain why recruiters at job fairs will say that they understand that there was this thing called the "dark decade", and they understand why some pilot's times are high compared to some other hiring eras, why their TPIC time may be lower in regards to TT due to stagnation, etc.

So with all that said and they study in mind, I guess this is what pilots SHOULD have done; 9/12/2001, QUIT. DON'T fly till around the 2005 time frame, THEN get back into flying to take advantage of the "pilot shortage" that will hit shortly. THEN, if they didn't get hired that round, STOP flying AGAIN for a little over a year, THEN get back in hoping to be one of the lucky ones to get hired at DAL. If not, quit AGAIN and hang out till late 2012, to take advantage of the NEXT pilot shortage. Whatever you do, DON'T put the time in the logbook!!!!! Or at a minimum, just don't log ANY time

Yeah...........that's the ticket......
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Old 03-04-2014 | 03:30 PM
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Flying Ninja summed it up

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Old 03-04-2014 | 03:52 PM
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But I'm ENTITLED to get called by Delta and United before anybody else!!1!
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Old 03-04-2014 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
At what airline have you found nepotism to be useful to you?
Its a core value at Alaska Airlines.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 04:37 PM
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FLYZERG,

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Old 03-04-2014 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Terantious
What discrimination? I just got my ATP and have been picked up by mainline, they gave me my choice of base and told me i could pick what airplane i wanted to fly. They also said they want to put me on the next cover of their company magazine so i am not sure what this discrimination is all about. See my interview photo below.

Classic movie. Funny how certain groups got all up in arms when it came out. Truth hurts, I guess.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MARX
Many airlines have done performance driven pilot selection studies. Most of the information is shared between airlines who have conducted similar studies. There are undeniably strong correlations between the airlines' data suggesting that flight time is a weak predictor of a pilot's success on the line and/or in training. Unfortunately, higher flight times actually yield less favorable results.
And you know this how? Pilot or HR manager, what hat are you wearing today? Or did you see it written on the bathroom wall.
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