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Old 12-23-2006, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BYUFlyr View Post
Great posts!!! APC should consider including this info on airline profiles.
Second that...

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Old 12-23-2006, 09:49 AM
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Payscales:
http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airli...wisconsin.html

RJ rates increase by 1.5% every October

In addition, CA's get a 3% raise over industry average in 2008, and a 4% raise over industry average in 2010. Industry average is computed as the largest 6 suppliers of 50 seat ASM's. FO's after first year receive 60% of CA compensation (so pay goes up basically based upon CA rates)

CRJ 200 Monthly guarantee: 75 hours
CRJ 200 Reserve guarantee: 75 hours

Days off: 12 line holders AND reserves

Long Call - beeperless, 2 day call out, not available anywhere else.

Per Diem Rate: $1.50, increased to $1.60 in 2008.

Compensation:
Paid the greater of:
  • Scheduled historical block time (leg by leg basis)
  • Actual block time flown (leg by leg basis)
  • 2:1 duty pay (based on actual AND scheduled duty time)
  • 4:1 trip rig based upon TAFB
  • Min lineholder daily guarantee of 3:00 (CDO's 5:00)
  • Min reserve daily guarantee 4:10
  • Min Long Call daily guarantee 4:30

100% cancellation pay (for any reason)
100% deadhead pay

New Hires:
  • Single Occupancy Hotel
  • Uniforms Deducted from pay
  • Jepps AND binders Supplied
  • Full pay during training (min guarantee @ first year pay x monthly guarantee) Full pay while waiting for OE, Per diem on OE

Paid Holidays
No paid holidays for pilots.

Sick Time Accrual Rate
  • From day 1, 3.5 hours per month, or 0.047 hours per hour (based upon monthly guarantee)

Vacation Accrual Rate
  • First year of service - .58 (.58 x 12 months = 7 days)
  • More than 1 year of service - 1.16 (1.16 x 12 months = 14 days)
  • More than 5 years - 1.75 (1.75 x 12 months = 21 days)
  • More than 10 years of service - 2.33 (2.33 x 12 months = 28 days)
  • More than 19 years of service -
    2.92 (2.92 x 12 months = 35 days)

Primary vacation has trip touching, allowing 7 days of vacation to be turned into 18+ days off. This is because AWAC doesn't have PBS (yet, being forced down throats to allow them to be "more competitive").

Uniforms:
$260/year uniform allowance
$50/year headset allowance (to be used @ $300)

Benefits:
Available after 2 weeks

Various health plans - PPO, HMO, Comprehensive
Costs are between $37 - $160 per paycheck ($75 - $260/month) Low end is for the HMO, high end is the Comprehensive plan with family coverage. Note: These rates were just increased upwards of 75% 2 months ago.

Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP is a professional, confidential counseling service provided through Intermountain Health Care (IHC). The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area. Your consultations will be kept confidential.

Dental
$~3-$4/pay period, two plans

Flexible Spending Accounts

Disability
Short-term ~ $2.5 bi-weekly
Long-term ~$10 monthly

Life Insurance (free immediately)
$50,000 coverage for employee
Additional coverages can be bought for spouse and dependents, as well as ADD insurance

401k Matching
Now thru 2008: 100% @ 4% of wages, additional 3% regardless of pilot contributions, for a total of 7%
After 2008: 100% @ 5%, additional 3% regardless of pilot contributions, for a total of 8%.

401k starts immediately, funds are matched after 1 year, fully vested after 6 years on property

Employee Stock Purchase
AWAC is privately held.

Education Savings (available after 90 days)
Nothing you can't do by yourself (like Skywest's plan).

Other Stuff:

No involuntary junior manning (everyone says that)

Open time can be picked up at premium pay (150%) as long as it's picked up within 4 days of the next bid period (basically 4 days prior to the beginning of the month).

Schedules are constructed using line bidding. PBS sucks, it awards the top percentage of senior people the best trips and everyone else suffers. It also kills your vacation trip touching, which essentially cuts your vacation time in half.
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Old 12-23-2006, 09:55 AM
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When you say 2:1 duty pay, what exactly does that mean?
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Old 12-23-2006, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound View Post
When you say 2:1 duty pay, what exactly does that mean?
Duty time starts when you first check in at the airport for your first flight, and ends when you finish your last leg + 15 minutes. Take that time - 10, 12, 14 hours, whatever it is, and divide it be 2, and that is your duty pay.

So, if you spent 13:00 hours on duty, at AWAC your minimum pay for the day would be 7.5 hours. If you flew 8.5 hours, your pay would be 8.5.

Duty rigs just allow you to make money while the company is being inefficient with having you sit around at airports all day.
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Old 12-23-2006, 12:32 PM
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Hey Burt what's "Open Time"? I like the post. The most informitive yet for someone like me. You guys should put this with the airline pages.
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Old 12-23-2006, 12:55 PM
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Open time trips are trips that haven't been assigned to anyone. When lines are created by the planners (or PBS in our case) there are generally some trips that can't be covered and those trips go into "open time" where they can be picked up by pilots for extra pay. Eventually, if the trips don't get picked up, they are assigned to reserves.

At SKYW, if you request to pick up a trip from open time within 10 days of the trip they either have to give it to you at 150% pay or immediately assign it to a reserve line holder.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
Hey Burt what's "Open Time"? I like the post. The most informitive yet for someone like me. You guys should put this with the airline pages.
"Open Time" is flying that is left over after all the line holders lines and reserve lines are created. At the FAT domicile for SKW they will create 56 lines with 3-4 reserve lines. Right know we have about 18 reserve pilots at FAT. (56 line holders + 4 reserve lines + 18 reserve = 78 FO’s) These numbers change slightly every month as new pilots come in, change domicile and leave the company.

We use etrip (Online Trip System) which has an "Open Time" window so you can go and look at all the "Open Time". If you pick it up within 10 days of the current date, "Open Time" is paid out at 150% your hourly pay. "Open Time" that is greater than 10 days out you only get paid 100% of hourly pay, but you can call crew support and usually talk them into 150%. "Open Time" is great because you can fill in your schedule so you end up with more pay. If I end up with an 88 hour line I can use "Open Time" to end around 100 hours with the last 12 hours being paid at 150%.

Because of "Open Time," credits, and daily guarantees I consistently block (fly) 83-87 hours and get paid 95-105.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:07 PM
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yeah, what he said...
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by U-I pilot View Post
• Positive space travel provided to and from training and Home of record

Other pay Credits
• Drug Alcohol testing (30 minutes pay)
• CBT / Home study (1 hour pay for 2 hour study)
• Profit Sharing
• On-time bonuses from CAL


SKW also pays you for Drug/Alcohol testing at 30 mins and when you do quarterly internet bases training we get paid 1hr. The training only takes about 15 minutes.

Also Positive spaced all the way through IOE and after IOE you get 4 days off for moving. During IOE they pay for all your hotel rooms, even the night before & after your trip (if they can’t get you in or out the day of), because they don't consider you a FO there until you’re finished with IOE and you've had the chance to move.

We receive bonuses for Completion, Baggage, and On Time performance; after you pass the grace period usually equate to about $500 for FO's and $1000 for CA each quarter ($2K FO, $4K CA yearly).
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:56 PM
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Is it normal to get 90-100hrs of pay a month plus per diem?
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