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Old 06-12-2014, 10:37 AM
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We will get a european model where 300 hour "crew qualified" pilots are hired from zero up. We will probably see cabotage as well. Time to go to plumbing school because it will never get better.
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Being an airline pilot is a job, not a ride at Disneyland. The enchantment will wear off. If you are who you say you are and have the background you claim to have then hopefully you have hobbies/jobs on the side that are more challenging. The smart people in this career are not mentally challenged enough to be satisfied just flying. People who go to high level colleges are usually not stimulated enough to find satisfaction in mundane repetitive thankless jobs.
I do lots of things for fun, but randomly making up stuff about myself is not one of them. This is me: Kareem Fahmi: Creative Director . You can also find me on LinkedIn, I'm the only Kareem Fahmi on there.

Let me tell you, when you've just written the 19th iteration of a :30 TV spot and find yourself on a 5-hour conference call with the client, the main topic of which is "Should we say it's the cleanest, driest baby wipe or the driest, cleanest baby wipe?" (True story, including the length of the call and the number of revisions)...well, you do that for 18 years and then let's talk about mundane, repetitive jobs....

(And yes, perhaps the word 'enchantment' is too strong. But I just have a serious weakness for anything that burns Jet-A. Sad, I know, but there you have it.)
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Cabotage means foreign airlines.they need pilots.the US has THE MOST excess pilots of any county....if a foreign airline is going to replace a us airline they will need us pilots, as the overseas shortage is much, much worse than the us shortage.
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Until you've seen furloughed major guys flying night checks, 10 approaches a night thankful for the job, you have no idea how good RJ flying is. It's heaven compared to 1975, you're in a jet, for heaven's sake, not a clapped out Aztec C.

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Scope almost doesn't matter anymore, because there will not be new pilots for three regionals to fly any more planes. Cabotage well work, if the foreign airlines hire US pilots. The majors will have severe pilot hiring problems, unless they change the pilot training system.
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All of the biz jet openings require an applicant to have the type and some time in it. I'll call it a shortage when they'll accept a non typed individual and put him through the school with no contract afterwards until then see my post above about a carrier looking for dual qual'd and current and still nothing.
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A company in HKG just started 2 American guys...neither one was typed in their aircraft. I was told I could get a Falcon 7x capt job in China....I've only gotten a Falcon 20 type rating and no time in the 7x.
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I was typed in none of three planes my employer typed me in when hired. We only fly two types at one time, btw.

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We will get a european model where 300 hour "crew qualified" pilots are hired from zero up. We will probably see cabotage as well. Time to go to plumbing school because it will never get better.
This is one that concerns me greatly. Wouldn't such a European model make the FAA certificates in our pockets worthless. All new pilots will be hand picked by the airline, and many of us will be out of the game.

I am not referring to those of us who allready fly for the airlines, but rather to those of us who have our ratings, but haven't made the move yet.

There are so damn many CFI type people out there who have a reluctance to move ahead with the regionals. I'm thinking that if the regionals move towards this ab initio type training, then people like me who are just waiting for our finances to be in order before applying, will be left out.

All new pilots hired will have to come from a specific program, or so it may seem.
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Until you've seen furloughed major guys flying night checks, 10 approaches a night thankful for the job, you have no idea how good RJ flying is. It's heaven compared to 1975, you're in a jet, for heaven's sake, not a clapped out Aztec C.

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Four approaches a night for me: 2 in Detroit City and 2 in CVG. In the MU2. Single pilot. All at night. Four nights a week. Going to the RJ was wonderful (circa 2000).
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Until you've seen furloughed major guys flying night checks, 10 approaches a night thankful for the job, you have no idea how good RJ flying is. It's heaven compared to 1975, you're in a jet, for heaven's sake, not a clapped out Aztec C.

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I understand what you are saying and I can appreciate your point; however, that was nearly 40 years ago and times are very different. Admittedly, there are worse things to fly than RJs, but there are better things to fly as well. The old saying you have to "pay your dues" is getting old in this industry and I am referring to the regional industry. There are guys who have been "paying their dues" for the past 10-12 years. When their airlines were in a financial bind and asked for "help" in the form of concessions, the pilots obliged. When their airlines and the airlines they were providing feeder service for were / are making record profits asked for concessions, they told them to go pack sand.
Like I said I understand your point. I am, just like many others, grateful to be in this profession, but I AM a professional. WE ARE PROFESSIONALS and I believe it is time for the AIRLINES to PAY THEIR DUES. That's my opinion for what it's worth.....not much.
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