Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Regional
Worsening Pilot Shortage >

Worsening Pilot Shortage

Search
Notices
Regional Regional Airlines

Worsening Pilot Shortage

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-15-2014, 08:45 AM
  #141  
MK Ultra Candidate
 
ClickClickBoom's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Default

Originally Posted by soon2bfo View Post
This is true, but if we allow foreign operators to originate and terminate flights within the US using their pilots we will eventually be cut out of the job market. Foreign airlines can hire people from zero time and be operational in 300 or so hours, and this is the problem with allowing cabotage. Their candidates are younger, smarter, and work harder than Americans do because they are hungrier. In the USA we think we are a big deal, and historically we have been because we have been so rich for so long, but that is changing quickly. It will take years but we can never allow cabotage to be a reality.
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
Next!
ClickClickBoom is offline  
Old 06-15-2014, 08:58 AM
  #142  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 75
Default

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
Next!
Shack. I would hope it will take years/decades between that accident and any realistic effort to allow it.
Jp8burner is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 08:01 AM
  #143  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Left seat of a Jet
Posts: 514
Default

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
Next!
soon2bfo is correct because as long as Houston we have a problem presents itself stuck on stupid is the next best thing to slice bread!
bozobigtop is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 09:39 AM
  #144  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Be 90
Posts: 44
Default

ANALYSIS: The truth about the US pilots shortage - 6/16/2014 - Flight Global
d5pilot is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 10:05 AM
  #145  
Moderator
 
Cubdriver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: ATP, CFI etc.
Posts: 6,056
Default

^ requires a subscription/ membership. A lot of times they do not mind if you post an article from such a website if you either ask permission, or do it infrequently.
Cubdriver is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 10:53 AM
  #146  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Captain - Retired
Posts: 265
Default

Great Lakes Airlines is taking the drastic step of converting its 19-seat Beech 1900s into nine-seaters, enabling them to fly with a single pilot as a Part 135 carrier and thus cutting its pilot requirement in half.


Actually...having just read that article...it's clearly another endorsement by Bedford and the RAA. It's full of non facts and or course steers very wide around the actual reason the regionals can't attract pilots.

There are plenty of qualified pilots out there... The RAA's problem is they don't want the qualified ones, they want the unqualified ones.

Last edited by NineGturn; 06-16-2014 at 11:08 AM.
NineGturn is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 04:17 PM
  #147  
sharing
 
profit's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 139
Default

I love how the CEOs used to say pay was a function of supply and demand. They could pay nothing because there were too many qualified applicants.

Now they can't staff and "boo hoo, we need relief". They created this monster. Now they can deal with it.

Last edited by profit; 06-16-2014 at 04:58 PM. Reason: profane
profit is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 06:06 PM
  #148  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 620
Default

Originally Posted by soon2bfo View Post
This is true, but if we allow foreign operators to originate and terminate flights within the US using their pilots we will eventually be cut out of the job market. Foreign airlines can hire people from zero time and be operational in 300 or so hours, and this is the problem with allowing cabotage. Their candidates are younger, smarter, and work harder than Americans do because they are hungrier. In the USA we think we are a big deal, and historically we have been because we have been so rich for so long, but that is changing quickly. It will take years but we can never allow cabotage to be a reality.
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
Next!
If you look at the Asiana incident in SFO, there was a lot experience in the Flight Deck, why no one said anything & why the check airman kept quite, is beyond my understanding.

You don't have to worry about foreigners coming here to take the jobs done regional pilots in the US.

The US regional pilots are the worst paid as compared to pilots anywhere on this planet....
bcpilot is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 06:31 PM
  #149  
Gets Weekends Off
 
pilotpete711's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: Captain of hammock in backyard
Posts: 129
Default Pilot Shortage, defined

The real definition of pilot shortage:

When an airline consistently underpays or otherwise "shorts" its pilot group.

Get the sticker from FlyStickers!
pilotpete711 is offline  
Old 06-16-2014, 06:43 PM
  #150  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JamesNoBrakes's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Volleyball Player
Posts: 3,982
Default

Originally Posted by pilotpete711 View Post
The real definition of pilot shortage:

When an airline consistently underpays or otherwise "shorts" its pilot group.

Get the sticker from FlyStickers!
Hmm....could work.
JamesNoBrakes is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Opus
Major
46
04-04-2008 09:47 PM
Oldfreightdawg
Major
1
03-03-2008 06:43 PM
jelloy683
Major
9
08-03-2007 01:05 PM
jelloy683
Regional
3
08-02-2007 04:03 PM
aerospacepilot
Regional
59
07-01-2007 04:57 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices