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Old 06-15-2014 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
Cabotage means foreign airlines.they need pilots.the US has THE MOST excess pilots of any county....if a foreign airline is going to replace a us airline they will need us pilots, as the overseas shortage is much, much worse than the us shortage.
This is true, but if we allow foreign operators to originate and terminate flights within the US using their pilots we will eventually be cut out of the job market. Foreign airlines can hire people from zero time and be operational in 300 or so hours, and this is the problem with allowing cabotage. Their candidates are younger, smarter, and work harder than Americans do because they are hungrier. In the USA we think we are a big deal, and historically we have been because we have been so rich for so long, but that is changing quickly. It will take years but we can never allow cabotage to be a reality.
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Old 06-15-2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by soon2bfo
This is true, but if we allow foreign operators to originate and terminate flights within the US using their pilots we will eventually be cut out of the job market. Foreign airlines can hire people from zero time and be operational in 300 or so hours, and this is the problem with allowing cabotage. Their candidates are younger, smarter, and work harder than Americans do because they are hungrier. In the USA we think we are a big deal, and historically we have been because we have been so rich for so long, but that is changing quickly. It will take years but we can never allow cabotage to be a reality.
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
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Old 06-15-2014 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
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Shack. I would hope it will take years/decades between that accident and any realistic effort to allow it.
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Old 06-16-2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
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soon2bfo is correct because as long as Houston we have a problem presents itself stuck on stupid is the next best thing to slice bread!
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Old 06-16-2014 | 09:39 AM
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ANALYSIS: The truth about the US pilots shortage - 6/16/2014 - Flight Global
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Old 06-16-2014 | 10:05 AM
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^ requires a subscription/ membership. A lot of times they do not mind if you post an article from such a website if you either ask permission, or do it infrequently.
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Old 06-16-2014 | 10:53 AM
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Great Lakes Airlines is taking the drastic step of converting its 19-seat Beech 1900s into nine-seaters, enabling them to fly with a single pilot as a Part 135 carrier and thus cutting its pilot requirement in half.


Actually...having just read that article...it's clearly another endorsement by Bedford and the RAA. It's full of non facts and or course steers very wide around the actual reason the regionals can't attract pilots.

There are plenty of qualified pilots out there... The RAA's problem is they don't want the qualified ones, they want the unqualified ones.

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Old 06-16-2014 | 04:17 PM
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I love how the CEOs used to say pay was a function of supply and demand. They could pay nothing because there were too many qualified applicants.

Now they can't staff and "boo hoo, we need relief". They created this monster. Now they can deal with it.

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Old 06-16-2014 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by soon2bfo
This is true, but if we allow foreign operators to originate and terminate flights within the US using their pilots we will eventually be cut out of the job market. Foreign airlines can hire people from zero time and be operational in 300 or so hours, and this is the problem with allowing cabotage. Their candidates are younger, smarter, and work harder than Americans do because they are hungrier. In the USA we think we are a big deal, and historically we have been because we have been so rich for so long, but that is changing quickly. It will take years but we can never allow cabotage to be a reality.
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
SFO seawall, meet Asiana.
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If you look at the Asiana incident in SFO, there was a lot experience in the Flight Deck, why no one said anything & why the check airman kept quite, is beyond my understanding.

You don't have to worry about foreigners coming here to take the jobs done regional pilots in the US.

The US regional pilots are the worst paid as compared to pilots anywhere on this planet....
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Old 06-16-2014 | 06:31 PM
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The real definition of pilot shortage:

When an airline consistently underpays or otherwise "shorts" its pilot group.

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