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Old 10-20-2014 | 10:13 AM
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I really hope this is true. At the end of the day, assuming this isn't a troll post, why else would we be listed on there?

As for Endeavors -200s going to a current DCI carrier (while certainly may be true) who besides maybe SKW staff them? I thought I heard Expressjet/ASA was not filling classes.

It also makes zero sense at all that were going to be 1,000 pilots here shortly. Yes there is attrition, but it isn't even close to what it would need in terms of now having an extra 300 pilots. Just my thoughts on it all.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
I really hope this is true. At the end of the day, assuming this isn't a troll post, why else would we be listed on there?

As for Endeavors -200s going to a current DCI carrier (while certainly may be true) who besides maybe SKW staff them? I thought I heard Expressjet/ASA was not filling classes.

It also makes zero sense at all that were going to be 1,000 pilots here shortly. Yes there is attrition, but it isn't even close to what it would need in terms of now having an extra 300 pilots. Just my thoughts on it all.

Much like the 2008 Presidential election, its time for a recount. Unless things have changed in the past year, AWAC does not have 1000 pilots. That seniority number you see that may reach into the 1000's is false. That number doesnt factor in for management pilots, instructors, captains/fo's recently departed, and training failures/firings. That number is only updated when the master seniority list is updated twice a year.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Onedayatatimee
Whats the chances that Delta gets Endeavor down to 81 airplanes (after using Endeavor to dump CRJ200's to comply with the Delta pilots agreement) and then Delta wants to sell the Endeavor 81 CR9 operation to the highest bidder and cash in. Maybe Air Wisconsin and Delta already have an agreement on such a purchase that might also include the 30 options that I'm guessing will be announced as firm orders right around the time that Endeavor receives the last hull from the current order.

What would such transaction mean for the SSP and ETD program?
SSP would be valid for those on the seniority list as of the ratification of the Bridge Agreement. (Jan '13)

The fleet guarantee of 81 900s would be challenged in court, and, ultimately settled for pennies on the dollar.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear

As for Endeavors -200s going to a current DCI carrier (while certainly may be true) who besides maybe SKW staff them?
SKW will be receiving 20 Endeavor 200s. That's at least what our MX is scheduling for.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
I really hope this is true. At the end of the day, assuming this isn't a troll post, why else would we be listed on there?

As for Endeavors -200s going to a current DCI carrier (while certainly may be true) who besides maybe SKW staff them? I thought I heard Expressjet/ASA was not filling classes.

It also makes zero sense at all that were going to be 1,000 pilots here shortly. Yes there is attrition, but it isn't even close to what it would need in terms of now having an extra 300 pilots. Just my thoughts on it all.
I thought Xjet wasn't hiring?
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Old 10-20-2014 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
Much like the 2008 Presidential election, its time for a recount. Unless things have changed in the past year, AWAC does not have 1000 pilots. That seniority number you see that may reach into the 1000's is false. That number doesnt factor in for management pilots, instructors, captains/fo's recently departed, and training failures/firings. That number is only updated when the master seniority list is updated twice a year.
Exactly. We are much closer to 800 pilots right now than 1000. While we have a bit more on property than we have had in a while, it's not like we have hundreds of guys just sitting around doing nothing every month.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
Much like the 2008 Presidential election, its time for a recount. Unless things have changed in the past year, AWAC does not have 1000 pilots. That seniority number you see that may reach into the 1000's is false. That number doesnt factor in for management pilots, instructors, captains/fo's recently departed, and training failures/firings. That number is only updated when the master seniority list is updated twice a year.
Thanks for the info. I was always wondering *** was going on. Every month I see the vacancy awards and see the new hires out of ATW with 900 numbers, but then I look on the vacancy award in Flica and it shows me 590s out of 790 or so pilots. I don't get it.

I know they are wanting to hire 125 by the end of the year. Goodluck. I have a friend who started Sim back in Aug. Still not done due to a host of issues and what not. It seems like despite finding more sims it hasn't helped ppl get through at a reasonable timeframe.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
SKW will be receiving 20 Endeavor 200s. That's at least what our MX is scheduling for.
I had the SkyWest COO in the jumpseat a few weeks ago and he confirmed this, not the number of airplanes but that SkyWest Airlines not ASA would be receiving some of these 200s
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Old 10-20-2014 | 01:04 PM
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Can't help but just look at the fact that someone at Delta IT was told by someone to add the name to the list. Maybe it wasn't supposed to go live yet? But the change was done, that's hard to ignore, but for how much, how long, what planes, not holding my breath because everything could change, but far from being a rumor, someone meant for that change to happen to the website.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPKP
Can't help but just look at the fact that someone at Delta IT was told by someone to add the name to the list. Maybe it wasn't supposed to go live yet? But the change was done, that's hard to ignore, but for how much, how long, what planes, not holding my breath because everything could change, but far from being a rumor, someone meant for that change to happen to the website.
Good point, it means something, although it is not clear when a change will happen.
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