9E's Retention Bonus - A Mirage in the Desert
#42
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
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While I could have used more tact in my description of an FO's responsibilities, what I was trying to point out is that the Captain is the one that ultimately calls the shots, in the end someone is the decision maker after gathering all relevant information and opinions utilizing CRM. You don't get that experience as an FO, sorry you simply don't. I stand by my opinion that the Regional Captains that have over a decade experience and have been stagnated deserve a shot at an interview before an FO with no TPIC.
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
#43
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
#44
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
While I could have used more tact in my description of an FO's responsibilities, what I was trying to point out is that the Captain is the one that ultimately calls the shots, in the end someone is the decision maker after gathering all relevant information and opinions utilizing CRM. You don't get that experience as an FO, sorry you simply don't. I stand by my opinion that the Regional Captains that have over a decade experience and have been stagnated deserve a shot at an interview before an FO with no TPIC.
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
Keep in mind the military also has a preferential hiring program along with DCI at Delta.
#45
While I could have used more tact in my description of an FO's responsibilities, what I was trying to point out is that the Captain is the one that ultimately calls the shots, in the end someone is the decision maker after gathering all relevant information and opinions utilizing CRM. You don't get that experience as an FO, sorry you simply don't. I stand by my opinion that the Regional Captains that have over a decade experience and have been stagnated deserve a shot at an interview before an FO with no TPIC.
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
I could care less what you think of me personally. But all the responses smack of a spoiled brat entitlement attitude. I've been an RJ FO for 7 years and I want my mainline job NOW and I'm going to kick and scream if I don't get it....Freakin grow up, grow a set and wait your turn like your Captains have....
Thanks for confirming what we all think about you and your type. How about instead you accept the theory that every crew member is valuable to the operation regardless of experience and might offer insights and views that you might have never thought of since you can only think inside of a 4x4 box. I think it is humorous that when people like yourself make it into the left seat all of a sudden you're a master of the sky and everyone either A: Junior to you or B: Is a FO is vastly inferior to people like yourself.
#48
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 27
It's the same job.
Working at a legacy is much like the senior circuit of a professioanl sport. Same basic game, just played at a much slower pace.
If you actually work at a legacy, you already know that.
#50
Don't let anyone fool you. The reason regional CAs say stuff like "FOs with not pic should not get hired before a CA" is merely because they are angry that they have had to endure 7-10yrs of FO/CA stuff and they should get to go first because they have paid their dues and "you" haven't. While I do think upgrading teaches you a lot more than what being an FO has, certainly any regional FO would do fine at major and there is no real reason they shouldn't be afforded that opportunity. I'm in the same boat and to be honest I get the same feeling. 2008-2012 it was all about "Turbine PIC". If you wanted to go anywhere halfway decent, you needed it. It was the holy grail. So during that whole time I'm sitting as an FO with no hope of going anywhere else until I get "my thousand". After 6.5yrs in the right seat, I finally upgrade and am trucking right on towards my 1000 and sure as crap, now places are offering spots to FOs. It's chaps me a little bit, but only because I'm being a 4yr old who doesn't get the toy they wanted and think life is not fair. Truth be told, I would much rather see any regional FO make it to a major before a military guy. While that statement was flame bait, let me clarify and say that military guys are fine and they certainly have sacrificed a lot in their life, but I think they would make better major pilots if they spent a year in the regionals. I flown with several military pilots who came from single seat fighter to heavy lift and all of them have become the most humble people I know. Most had been told by their buddies about coming straight to WN, DAL, UAL, AA, etc but they couldn't because they rode a desk for a little too long, so they had to go to a regional and get currency. All of them have a life long perspective of how the other half live now and it is impressive to watch them. So, I think military people should go to the majors...after a year of some regional flying, which all of us know is no joke and probably more demanding than any major domestic schedule. Anyway, that is my long winded rant.
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