Wheels falling off at RAH
08-10-2015 | 12:15 PM
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You sir are wrong. The only thing you are right about is that it is not that hard to look up. I'll direct you to American Airlines' decision to impose a new contract on flight attendants in 1993 after the 30 day cooling off period ended. Prior to a strike.
Release - Determination by the NMB that parties are at impasse and should be released to strike, impose final offer or otherwise engage in self help.
Release - Determination by the NMB that parties are at impasse and should be released to strike, impose final offer or otherwise engage in self help.
The last major strikes by airline workers came in 1993, when American Airlines flight attendants struck against concession demands. However, instead of supporting the strike, the pilots’ union ordered its members to cross the picket lines and continue to fly planes. APFA called off the strike after only five days, agreeing to a deal for binding arbitration brokered by the administration of President Bill Clinton. It required flight attendants to return to work under terms of the same draconian work rule concessions that were the immediate catalyst for the walkout.
Not at all imposed by American, but directed from the union
08-10-2015 | 12:17 PM
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Oh you mean this:
The last major strikes by airline workers came in 1993, when American Airlines flight attendants struck against concession demands. However, instead of supporting the strike, the pilots’ union ordered its members to cross the picket lines and continue to fly planes. APFA called off the strike after only five days, agreeing to a deal for binding arbitration brokered by the administration of President Bill Clinton. It required flight attendants to return to work under terms of the same draconian work rule concessions that were the immediate catalyst for the walkout.
Not at all imposed by American, but directed from the union
The last major strikes by airline workers came in 1993, when American Airlines flight attendants struck against concession demands. However, instead of supporting the strike, the pilots’ union ordered its members to cross the picket lines and continue to fly planes. APFA called off the strike after only five days, agreeing to a deal for binding arbitration brokered by the administration of President Bill Clinton. It required flight attendants to return to work under terms of the same draconian work rule concessions that were the immediate catalyst for the walkout.
Not at all imposed by American, but directed from the union
08-10-2015 | 12:27 PM
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I'm not sure why you referenced the APFA strike of 1993. First and foremost, the flight attendants absolutely, positively did strike. During that strike Clinton persuaded (not ordered) the two parties to voluntarily submit to binding arbitration. There is no provision in the RLA to involuntarily force either party into binding arbitration during section 6 negotiations.
08-10-2015 | 12:34 PM
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I believe yes, but don't quote me on that. What I'm saying is that the airline cannot simply "impose" a contract of their choosing during self-help. If airline management is able to secure release to self-help from the NMB their recourse would be to subject the pilots to a lockout and attempt to bring in SCABs, which is obviously the last thing RAH wants.
1.) I presented my post to which you objected to and further claimed I don't understand.
2.) Then, I directly provided the meaning of release as defined by the RLA.
3.) Then, I provided an example to substantiate my position.
At this point I'm still not sure whether you or gojo think I am incorrect or not.
We seem to be going around in circles here. Self help is where you find yourself after a release. Binding arbitration is voluntary and has nothing to do with our conversation. You are having a hard time here today.
08-10-2015 | 12:38 PM
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08-10-2015 | 12:44 PM
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I don't believe I ever disputed your understanding of release. You are confused about what self-help entails under section 6 negotiations.
08-10-2015 | 12:50 PM
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No. The company's self help remedy is to force a lockout. In a lockout the company puts all of the union pilots on the street and can then bring in SCABs. Yes, the company can then choose to pay the SCABs whatever they want, but under section 6 negotiations they cannot force union pilots to work under a contract that has not been ratified.
I don't believe I ever disputed your understanding of release. You are confused about what self-help entails under section 6 negotiations.
I don't believe I ever disputed your understanding of release. You are confused about what self-help entails under section 6 negotiations.
08-10-2015 | 01:24 PM
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the unilateral implementation of a contract on union pilots is after the lbfo has been voted down by the pilots when the company is in bankruptcy. case to give example was bk by aa and the imposed contract on same pilots when they voted NO.
08-10-2015 | 01:38 PM
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That's what I said a while ago. That's one of the reasons bankruptcy is so prevalent for the airlines. The restructuring of labor contracts and the shedding or restructuring of aircraft leases
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