Wheels falling off at RAH
05-13-2015, 05:18 AM
#131
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Your reality is a dream. I would have had no problem writing you up for unsafe operation if you ignored my safety related input when I was an FO. I don't really care if you try to "pull rank." Airline rank is meaningless. Do something unsafe and I would have absolutely taken the airplane from you.
Bla,bla, bla you aren't taking anything except orders, you are the help, plain and simple. If you get written up for insubordination, good luck at getting hired anywhere except Chili's. Internet tough boy!
Now go check the fuel door or generate another release!
05-13-2015, 05:26 AM
#132
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 726
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Bla,bla, bla you aren't taking anything except orders, you are the help, plain and simple. If you get written up for insubordination, good luck at getting hired anywhere except Chili's. Internet tough boy!
Now go check the fuel door or generate another release!
Now go check the fuel door or generate another release!
Now if he does take the controls, he'd better be darn sure he's right.
05-13-2015, 05:41 AM
#136
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by NVUS
Just like he was on the Regional forum over at Flightinfo.com as PBRStreetgang
You don't have like the message, but truth hurts, doesn't it dispatch boy, now go get that weather for KBFL and bump that fuel load up 500 lbs, now there you go, that's a good lad.
05-13-2015, 05:46 AM
#137
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Posts: 1,167
Originally Posted by snippercr
RJ Pilot I think has officially be decrowned official APC troll and replaced with Click Click Boom!
05-13-2015, 05:50 AM
#138
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,169
Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
Well it pains me to somewhat agree with breezy, but if an FO took over because the a captain did something unsafe, it wouldn't be insubordination. That being said, rarely does someone do something unsafe on purpose, and a good FO knows how to tactfully alert the captain of a developing unsafe situation.
Now if he does take the controls, he'd better be darn sure he's right.
Now if he does take the controls, he'd better be darn sure he's right.
CCB, you aren't an officer in the military and the FO is not your subordinate. Plus, officers in the military very rarely rarely "give orders." At my airline, if you would have "ordered" me to get the release when I was an FO, I would've told you to pound sand and there would be zero repercussions.
05-13-2015, 05:53 AM
#139
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,169
Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Ahhhhaaaa,
You don't have like the message, but truth hurts, doesn't it dispatch boy, now go get that weather for KBFL and bump that fuel load up 500 lbs, now there you go, that's a good lad.
You don't have like the message, but truth hurts, doesn't it dispatch boy, now go get that weather for KBFL and bump that fuel load up 500 lbs, now there you go, that's a good lad.
05-13-2015, 05:58 AM
#140
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 726
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Look up Mitigated Speech and its role in airline crashes. A first officer's job isn't to make the captain feel good. If he's doing something unsafe, you should use plain and blunt language to make him aware. If he doesn't correct it after two warnings, the FO should take the airplane.
CCB, you aren't an officer in the military and the FO is not your subordinate. Plus, officers in the military very rarely rarely "give orders." At my airline, if you would have "ordered" me to get the release when I was an FO, I would've told you to pound sand and there would be zero repercussions.
CCB, you aren't an officer in the military and the FO is not your subordinate. Plus, officers in the military very rarely rarely "give orders." At my airline, if you would have "ordered" me to get the release when I was an FO, I would've told you to pound sand and there would be zero repercussions.
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