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Old 07-09-2015 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by scudrunner13
So looking at the current financial status of my employer and UNDERSTANDING how to read a balance sheet, isn't being financially responsible when wondering if i am going to have a job in the future to pay my mortgage and support a family.......yeah, that makes sense to me.

Has anyone actually seen what the company is offering or is everyone just listening to what the NC says. Because, honestly, at this point I will take a "good" contract with fair pay, then going on and on for another year plus waiting for the NC and the company to finally agree, which may NEVER happen.

Take another look at that balance sheet by the way, aside from selling the aircraft we own, bankruptcy is a very real possibility, try negotiating a new contract with a company in bankruptcy..
How long have you been around in the airline industry? Ch. 11 CAN Be done anytjme. Mesaba did it when they were profitable.

once again, I need to get compensated for my work accordingly while we are hurting for pilots. Company doesn't even propose cola. F that.
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Old 07-09-2015 | 08:02 AM
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All the guys on the negotiating committee are good guys. I don't have a dog in this fight anymore, but it sounds like BB is trying to divide the pilot group once again. The NC has a support staff that reviews the feasibility of their proposal, so I seriously doubt they are asking for a 130k signing bonus. Also why would the company be so upset about having 747 (or C300) pay rates ? I mean if they are not going to fly the airplane it doesn't matter! Trust you NC and not company propaganda! This goes for scope as well, and they will outsource your jobs if they can. Both scope and 100+ seat aircraft do not cost RAH anything, if they are ethical about their decsions.
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Old 07-09-2015 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
How long have you been around in the airline industry? Ch. 11 CAN Be done anytjme. Mesaba did it when they were profitable.

once again, I need to get compensated for my work accordingly while we are hurting for pilots. Company doesn't even propose cola. F that.
Agreed but it is more difficult now, and the investors will make waves (BB will be gone). The local should just strike or at least release the company's LBFO with comments. I don't think they can get 51%.
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Old 07-09-2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FEtoFO
Agreed but it is more difficult now, and the investors will make waves (BB will be gone). The local should just strike or at least release the company's LBFO with comments. I don't think they can get 51%.
Well it looks like they are filing a lawsuit against the company for status quo violations. That's a step in the right direction!
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Old 07-09-2015 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname
Well it looks like they are filing a lawsuit against the company for status quo violations. That's a step in the right direction!
Yea I heard it was because of open time override of Juku?
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Old 07-09-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FEtoFO
Yea I heard it was because of open time override of Juku?
Huh. I guess they couldn't get Erik S. to fly everything.
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Old 07-09-2015 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scudrunner13
So looking at the current financial status of my employer and UNDERSTANDING how to read a balance sheet, isn't being financially responsible when wondering if i am going to have a job in the future to pay my mortgage and support a family.......yeah, that makes sense to me.

Has anyone actually seen what the company is offering or is everyone just listening to what the NC says. Because, honestly, at this point I will take a "good" contract with fair pay, then going on and on for another year plus waiting for the NC and the company to finally agree, which may NEVER happen.

Take another look at that balance sheet by the way, aside from selling the aircraft we own, bankruptcy is a very real possibility, try negotiating a new contract with a company in bankruptcy..
Gross. Let me guess. Lifer who cares about yourself only. Live in Indy? How are those company parties?
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Old 07-09-2015 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Huh. I guess they couldn't get Erik S. to fly everything.
Thought he was back as a check airman, so maybe he doesn't have to pickup much these days. I have seen the filling, and there are many spelling mistakes. As in May, June, Juka.... Why does the Teamsters suck so much??? This filling is very important to the pilot group and they screwed it up. Well at least they didn't send out your SSNs again!
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Old 07-09-2015 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FEtoFO
Thought he was back as a check airman, so maybe he doesn't have to pickup much these days. I have seen the filling, and there are many spelling mistakes. As in May, June, Juka.... Why does the Teamsters suck so much??? This filling is very important to the pilot group and they screwed it up. Well at least they didn't send out your SSNs again!
Did he really get his cka letter back?
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Old 07-09-2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Did he really get his cka letter back?
Just what I heard from a YX check. This was back in March, and I'm no longer there, so who knows. They may be hurting bad enough for check airman, and he got the call. Regardless I'm sure he has been picking up tons of OT.
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