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Old 07-06-2015 | 10:46 AM
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Who is the other one that has bailed?


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Old 07-06-2015 | 11:55 AM
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Hopefully W.P. based in MCI. He's worthless.
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Old 07-06-2015 | 02:49 PM
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I heard one of the east ACPs, a really good guy, went back to flying the line. first initial J. So In about a year we've lost the CP, two ACPs, COO, LOA department, and DO. Hmm...
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Old 07-08-2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by samc
I heard one of the east ACPs, a really good guy, went back to flying the line. first initial J. So In about a year we've lost the CP, two ACPs, COO, LOA department, and DO. Hmm...
Jerry Dooyes, was the PHL ACP.
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Old 07-08-2015 | 05:42 PM
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So they're offering $40 a hours 1st year FO pay? Me thinks second year will be 41!
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Old 07-08-2015 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FEtoFO
So they're offering $40 a hours 1st year FO pay? Me thinks second year will be 41!
Is the new TA out or is that a leak from an inside source? Just asking because payscale is usually the dead last item to TA.
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Old 07-08-2015 | 05:50 PM
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Are they getting closer to reaching a TA?
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Old 07-08-2015 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FEtoFO
So they're offering $40 a hours 1st year FO pay? Me thinks second year will be 41!
I second that!

I am starting to lose confidence in the negotiating committee. The latest email from the company says they're offering a "industry leading contract" in all areas. My opinion, have the company show their plan and see what they're offering and let the pilot group vote.

No one has anyone real insight as to what the NC is asking for. Maybe it actually is TOO much and thats why we keep blowing past these deadlines with no TA or promising updates.

I want to see exactly what the company is offering. I am no company guy and am just disgusted as the next guy flying the line. But looking at the financials, the company is leveraged to the gills, it has $3.4 billion in LONG TERM debt, its short term debt is almost double then its cash, we need to pay $100 million each year for the next 3 years before the long term debt kicks in. So we need to profit $100+ million annually to "show were profitable". In reality, financially..were ******ed.

So even if the company caves and gives in to these proclaimed "high demands" that the NC is asking for, with these numbers, how long will that gravy train last??

I want to see what the company is offering, compared to what the NC is asking.
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Old 07-08-2015 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scudrunner13
I second that!

I am starting to lose confidence in the negotiating committee. The latest email from the company says they're offering a "industry leading contract" in all areas. My opinion, have the company show their plan and see what they're offering and let the pilot group vote.

No one has anyone real insight as to what the NC is asking for. Maybe it actually is TOO much and thats why we keep blowing past these deadlines with no TA or promising updates.

I want to see exactly what the company is offering. I am no company guy and am just disgusted as the next guy flying the line. But looking at the financials, the company is leveraged to the gills, it has $3.4 billion in LONG TERM debt, its short term debt is almost double then its cash, we need to pay $100 million each year for the next 3 years before the long term debt kicks in. So we need to profit $100+ million annually to "show were profitable". In reality, financially..were ******ed.

So even if the company caves and gives in to these proclaimed "high demands" that the NC is asking for, with these numbers, how long will that gravy train last??

I want to see what the company is offering, compared to what the NC is asking.
Did you fill out any of the surveys? If you did, trust your Negotiating Committee... If you didn't, then shame on you for falling for company propaganda. Don't freak out now that the company is releasing tiny bits of info - they're playing you!!!
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Old 07-08-2015 | 07:38 PM
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We have the unique situation where the market is moving faster than the negotiators have the ability to contemplate. Regional pilot salaries should be doubling and the negotiations are thinking what, 10 to 20%? If the airlines were smart they would want to wrap up these contract negotiations as soon as possible and lock in these low rates.

There should not be airline captains at regionals making less than 100k, probably 110 to 120 should be the minimum. Everyone needs to adjust their expectation because that is where the free market is.
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