AWAC Pilots reach a TA with managment
08-09-2015, 03:07 PM
#122
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by billyho
Piedmont kept current rates and our insurance will go up when we get the ERJ but everyone considered it concessions. Hmmmmm
08-09-2015, 03:29 PM
#123
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by Realtalk
It doesn't matter year for year, seat for seat, AWAC still makes much more than PDT. That's the truth
08-09-2015, 03:35 PM
#124
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Slightly less broke side of RJ
Posts: 132
Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Even with caps...the 145 rates are a raise for us to fly the same amount of folks that we do now in the Dash 300. That is a truth touche.
08-09-2015, 03:36 PM
#125
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Posts: 547
Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
I'll take a little lower pay for a more certain future, flow, and an easier commute. Pay isn't the only piece in play. Even with caps...the 145 rates are a raise for us to fly the same amount of folks that we do now in the Dash 300. That is a truth touche.
Same with your flow, glad you have that...would be nice in some respects...but by the time you get your flow...most of the rest of us without will have had the same chance to get picked...and a higher pay scale while we wait.
You have some nice stuff in your contract...but you are getting too far over you skis when you compare it to ours.
08-09-2015, 04:06 PM
#126
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
Listen to yourself brother...it's fine you got a pay raise...just don't try to equivocate and project your increase in compensation as anything more than it is...which is still far short of what we have.
Same with your flow, glad you have that...would be nice in some respects...but by the time you get your flow...most of the rest of us without will have had the same chance to get picked...and a higher pay scale while we wait.
You have some nice stuff in your contract...but you are getting too far over you skis when you compare it to ours.
Same with your flow, glad you have that...would be nice in some respects...but by the time you get your flow...most of the rest of us without will have had the same chance to get picked...and a higher pay scale while we wait.
You have some nice stuff in your contract...but you are getting too far over you skis when you compare it to ours.
08-09-2015, 04:21 PM
#127
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by billyho
You won't have as good a chance at American. You realize each class with be full of pilots from the 3 of the WO'ed right? Then the rest probably military and a few from other regionals. The fact that our upgrade dropped to now less then 18 months you get you pic time and apply to delta or united faster if wanted. Getting hired outside the flow at American will be pretty tough.
08-09-2015, 05:39 PM
#128
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Posts: 2,450
Originally Posted by Realtalk
You must not have worked for us/American for very long huh? Aa is the last on my list, as well as about everyone else I talk too as a place to go. Go ahead and feel privledged to go to a complete cluster. The next few years are going to be PAINful with three lists. If you guys are into that sort of thing I won't judge, but dang.
08-10-2015, 10:01 AM
#129
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Posts: 547
Originally Posted by billyho
Privileged?? So American isn't first on your list? So I guess you're gauranteed a job at Delta and United? It's not a privilege it's a benefit to get turned down at United or Delta or both and still know you got a job at American. If that's the case you can judge all you want.
You have grown tiresome...
08-10-2015, 10:31 AM
#130
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Originally Posted by billyho
Piedmont kept current rates and our insurance will go up when we get the ERJ but everyone considered it concessions. Hmmmmm
To me, all these are mathematical concessions in exchange for another ALPA carrier's aircraft. But that's just me and mathematics.
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