AWAC Pilots reach a TA with managment
08-05-2015 | 06:27 PM
#92
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(1) For the love of all that is holy (or insert your own word choice)... There are a quadrillion threads of PDT/PSA/Envoy/Mesa is great/sucks. Please use those and leave this thread for actual AWAC TA discussion...
(2) No proof for sure, but I am of the belief that the company has or is about to put ink on paper for new flying... (Tons of it out there right now that isn't being staffed properly.) Why else would they push for a TA? The company has no reason to pay us MORE or give us any boosts to QOL if we are shutting the doors or they don't have something long term in the works. They could just ride this out to the end if that was the case. Question is whether it will be more 200 flying or moving to something else...
(2) No proof for sure, but I am of the belief that the company has or is about to put ink on paper for new flying... (Tons of it out there right now that isn't being staffed properly.) Why else would they push for a TA? The company has no reason to pay us MORE or give us any boosts to QOL if we are shutting the doors or they don't have something long term in the works. They could just ride this out to the end if that was the case. Question is whether it will be more 200 flying or moving to something else...
08-05-2015 | 06:31 PM
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(1) For the love of all that is holy (or insert your own word choice)... There are a quadrillion threads of PDT/PSA/Envoy/Mesa is great/sucks. Please use those and leave this thread for actual AWAC TA discussion...
(2) No proof for sure, but I am of the belief that the company has or is about to put ink on paper for new flying... (Tons of it out there right now that isn't being staffed properly.) Why else would they push for a TA? The company has no reason to pay us MORE or give us any boosts to QOL if we are shutting the doors or they don't have something long term in the works. They could just ride this out to the end if that was the case. Question is whether it will be more 200 flying or moving to something else...
(2) No proof for sure, but I am of the belief that the company has or is about to put ink on paper for new flying... (Tons of it out there right now that isn't being staffed properly.) Why else would they push for a TA? The company has no reason to pay us MORE or give us any boosts to QOL if we are shutting the doors or they don't have something long term in the works. They could just ride this out to the end if that was the case. Question is whether it will be more 200 flying or moving to something else...
08-05-2015 | 06:36 PM
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Delta Pilots rejected there last contract. Delta management threatened to fly more 50 seat RJ's and cx some aircraft orders. What better airline to do it then AWAC???
Delta management probably laid out the cost they are willing to spend and thus things moving fast to lock in their (there) (They're) cost.
Delta management probably laid out the cost they are willing to spend and thus things moving fast to lock in their (there) (They're) cost.
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08-05-2015 | 06:51 PM
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Nah, admittedly I'm new, but that would be a hard case to prove. Pretty sure the savvy business peeps that own AWAC aren't throwing us money because they are afraid we will sue them if we shut the doors. Likelihood of that happening AND succeeding are absurdly low.
08-06-2015 | 02:33 AM
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Comair held the line??? Son you don't know history do you? Comair grow because it was one of the first CRJ operators. There pay and workrules were awful! You actually had to PAY for you job there. That's right pay to get a CRJ rating and PAY for your own hotel. So basically you had to have mom and daddy pay 20,000 dollars for a 18k a year job flying a CRJ. But people did it.
They grew one the backs of people paying to work there and crappy pay and later got a good contract because they had some leverage only to sign a concessionary agreement later in hope of living another day.
So Comair held the line???? LOL, go back and learn!!
They grew one the backs of people paying to work there and crappy pay and later got a good contract because they had some leverage only to sign a concessionary agreement later in hope of living another day.
So Comair held the line???? LOL, go back and learn!!
08-06-2015 | 04:50 AM
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Comair grew from paying pilots/flight attendants low rates right? Comair did strike and got an industrial leading contract right??
Delta beefed up many of it's contract carriers and forced Comair to take concessions right??
Comair signed on concessions in hoping to survive right????
Comair was still shut down right????
Where is any of that wrong??
It's all the same in our industry Raise and Repeat. This is the one part of the industry I WON'T miss!
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08-06-2015 | 05:42 AM
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And the previous contract Comair just magically disappeared! I was there for that! 50 seat airplane cuts and the rise of the 717! Courtesy of ALPA! Until this thing is print I am making no conclusions! I have zero confidence in ALPA these days. Curious what five years of meeting in Cabo or the Bahamas has drummed up!
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