https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2005/08/nwa-a23.html

 

Gee I don't know, maybe the BILLIONS of dollars these mega airlines are pocketing each QUARTER!

Customers are paying more, but we see regional wages severely stagnated not proportionally growing to that growth in the market...

 

You do realize that AMFA went on strike because if they did, management promised them Delta. oops

Union that struck Northwest gives up at Delta - USATODAY.com

 

Does this mean the newhire FO's at the majors would start out at $300,000 and no more $35,000 quarterly bonuses?

 

If pay returned to historical levels as a percentage of revenue, mainline FO's should be earning more than that.

 

Not sure what you are getting at. NW pilots in essence stepped over a picket line, you can church it up any way you want, but the reality is their fellow union employees were on strike and they flew planes maintained by scabs.F-ever NW pilot, that flew those planes, they did more damage to the unions of the U.S. Than any airline exec ever did, including Lorenzo. They should have the scarlet S on their foreheads.

 

AMFA leadership told ALPA leadership to cross the line, because they would be back in a few weeks. I was working at NWA in tech ops at the time, AMFA was also assisting in training the replacement mechanics. I'm simply saying don't confuse our union corruption with their union corruption.

 

THIS! It's what I think every single time I see regional pilots *****ing about the union. Simply don't join it. When enough people do it, you'll get their attention. Then start your own.

 

Actually, it's happening already. Look at the routes you guys are doing on the 717. Those were DC9 routes back in the late 80's and early 90's. Then, later in the 90's we saw them transition to the CRJ. At UAL, we are decreasing UAX block hours and increasing UAL block hours and putting 737's and Airbuses on routes that have been flown by RJ's for the last 10-15 years.

Go to the "pilot factories" like Riddle and you see that there is no back-fill for the attrition. The trend will continue with block hours returning to mainline. Will it be 100% back to mainline? Not in the near future, but eventually it will.

It is fact, not spin, that indeed DALPA was the first to allow outsourced jet flying under the DL code to be done by other than DALPA pilots. These CRJ's were intended to "open" new markets, in exchange DALPA secured work rules, retirement, etc and couldn't be bothered with "regional jets." Before they knew it, RJ's were replacing the DC9's and 737-200's on certain routes......you know the rest of the story.

Soon enough, because mainline carriers were all envious of the contract quality the DALPA pilots obtained, most were willing to part with scope for the improvements. Since then DALPA has continuously relaxed gauge to be outsourced.......yet again, you know the rest of the story.

However you want to phrase it, DALPA was at the forefront of outsourcing flying they once did.

 

And I am saying, anyone who crosses a picket line is a scab. If they get formal recognization for that slimy behavior, I don't care, personal standards of behavior are what counts. Unions are run by the likes of Hoffa, and like airline execs, they have their own standards of conduct. Strike are strikes an until the union leadership stops selling their souls for airline exec approval, individuals have the responsibility to do what's right. Crossing is never right, period, dot, end of sentence.