The MRJ90 and E175-E2 are done
12-06-2016 | 07:30 PM
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12-06-2016 | 10:57 PM
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From: Guppy Gear Slinger
I have to say... With so many new hires at the legacies coming directly from the regionals -- many of whom suffered through the lost decade -- I have trouble imagining how these guys would ever vote for scope relaxation. Because they know exactly what further scope relaxation will do: keep guys like them, friends of theirs, stuck at the regional level that much longer.
There really doesn't seem to be any appetite among legacy pilot groups to relax scope, either now or in the future. Sure, that may change, but I can't imagine any regional flying anything larger than 76-seaters in the foreseeable future, because for that to happen, attitudes among the legacy pilot groups would have to change significantly...
There really doesn't seem to be any appetite among legacy pilot groups to relax scope, either now or in the future. Sure, that may change, but I can't imagine any regional flying anything larger than 76-seaters in the foreseeable future, because for that to happen, attitudes among the legacy pilot groups would have to change significantly...
12-07-2016 | 12:28 AM
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From: Poodle Whisperer
I have to say... With so many new hires at the legacies coming directly from the regionals -- many of whom suffered through the lost decade -- I have trouble imagining how these guys would ever vote for scope relaxation. Because they know exactly what further scope relaxation will do: keep guys like them, friends of theirs, stuck at the regional level that much longer.
There really doesn't seem to be any appetite among legacy pilot groups to relax scope, either now or in the future. Sure, that may change, but I can't imagine any regional flying anything larger than 76-seaters in the foreseeable future, because for that to happen, attitudes among the legacy pilot groups would have to change significantly...
There really doesn't seem to be any appetite among legacy pilot groups to relax scope, either now or in the future. Sure, that may change, but I can't imagine any regional flying anything larger than 76-seaters in the foreseeable future, because for that to happen, attitudes among the legacy pilot groups would have to change significantly...
12-07-2016 | 05:45 AM
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From: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
I have to say... With so many new hires at the legacies coming directly from the regionals -- many of whom suffered through the lost decade -- I have trouble imagining how these guys would ever vote for scope relaxation. Because they know exactly what further scope relaxation will do: keep guys like them, friends of theirs, stuck at the regional level that much longer.
There really doesn't seem to be any appetite among legacy pilot groups to relax scope, either now or in the future. Sure, that may change, but I can't imagine any regional flying anything larger than 76-seaters in the foreseeable future, because for that to happen, attitudes among the legacy pilot groups would have to change significantly...
There really doesn't seem to be any appetite among legacy pilot groups to relax scope, either now or in the future. Sure, that may change, but I can't imagine any regional flying anything larger than 76-seaters in the foreseeable future, because for that to happen, attitudes among the legacy pilot groups would have to change significantly...
12-07-2016 | 05:53 AM
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You really don't know or understand pilots. Pilots have been subjecting thei FAMILIES, to the folly of poverty wages, moves chasing seats, equipment, furloughs, and holidays/birthdays in hotels all in the quest for this job. If history is in indicator, scope is like anything else, it has a price, and your indentured servitude will continue as soon as the Price is Right. Pilots are predictable.
12-07-2016 | 07:02 AM
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2nd year pay at most legacy carriers is around $130,000 a year. If pilots vote in scope relief for another 10%, that isn't because they got hosed by the lost decade, but because they are greedy...then they deserve career stagnation and job loss because of that greed. If a family of 4 can't live off of that without a second income, they are doing life wrong.
12-07-2016 | 07:07 AM
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If mainline pilots want a 10% $ bump for an extra 1500lb GTW
On a 76 seat rj ain't gonna happen
12-07-2016 | 07:24 AM
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From: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
2nd year pay at most legacy carriers is around $130,000 a year. If pilots vote in scope relief for another 10%, that isn't because they got hosed by the lost decade, but because they are greedy...then they deserve career stagnation and job loss because of that greed. If a family of 4 can't live off of that without a second income, they are doing life wrong.
12-07-2016 | 07:38 AM
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Then maybe you shouldn't live in NYC if you can't afford to live there. I know for sure that I'll never vote in scope relief because someone can't afford to live in Manhattan. You choose to live in the city instead of moving somewhere that is cheaper to live.
12-07-2016 | 08:06 AM
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From: Prime Leader of Boko Harumph
Good on ya, the unfortunate reality is that the senior guys run the MECs, until the Jr guy take over the song will remain the same. I have chatted with widebody CAs at length, and to a man they were completely unaware as to what was going on at the bottom of their list, much less at their regional code shares. If there is cash on the table, their only concern is to get as much as possible.
