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Old 01-10-2017, 03:03 PM   #211
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Well "buddy." I guess the joke is really on you. Because you still work at that dirtbag outfit and I don't.

Enjoy your QOL while waiting 13.5 years to flow.
Wow, that's your response to being wrong?

Here little boy, take your ball and go home.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:21 PM   #212
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Flow will be down to 11 years or less by the end of the year, and dropping.

2004, 2005, 2006 hires will go this year, 2007 hires start going around the first of 2018. Higher CA attrition could even accelerate that.

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Old 01-10-2017, 03:21 PM   #213
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It seems as though there is a lot of incorrect info being posted here tonight. Can someone post the CORRECT flow data for those who want to know please?
Babs is correct as is the date I posted. The last pilot selected out of the 824 was the date I posted...the person accepted the flow and was put into the pool as of yesterday. While the end of the 824 as projected is as babs wrote...approx Sep 04.

What some of the simple minded folds like ag, is that there were years where there was 0 hiring; thus flow (and upgrades) are currently dropping dramatically because of the leaps of years where there was little to no hiring. Like once we push through the 2011 new hires for upgrades the actual upgrade time will fall dramatically.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:30 PM   #214
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Thanks Skyline. I get the projected part now.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:42 PM   #215
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I think we can all agree that the pool is not the same as starting class at aa. You still get junior manned at envoy while your in the "pool"
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Babs is correct as is the date I posted. The last pilot selected out of the 824 was the date I posted...the person accepted the flow and was put into the pool as of yesterday. While the end of the 824 as projected is as babs wrote...approx Sep 04.

What some of the simple minded folds like ag, is that there were years where there was 0 hiring; thus flow (and upgrades) are currently dropping dramatically because of the leaps of years where there was little to no hiring. Like once we push through the 2011 new hires for upgrades the actual upgrade time will fall dramatically.
This. Simple minded fools is an accurate statement. The dramatic dropping of upgrade and flow is already in progress. The math is all right there in the projections. Where the final numbers are listed on Envoyair.

Some people have no common sense and have trouble with math and facts. That's pretty apparent here in this thread.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:57 PM   #217
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Hahaha, that's what I was thinking. 13.5 and 16 are pretty far!!! How could you use such wrong numbers!!
Quoting yourself again? Well done
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:16 PM   #218
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Flow will be down to 11 years or less by the end of the year, and dropping.

2004, 2005, 2006 hires will go this year, 2007 hires start going around the first of 2018. Higher CA attrition could even accelerate that.
This isn't a guarantee, unfortunately. I am a 2006 hire and no longer believe I will be going this year. Nobody hopes I'm wrong more than me.

Even dacuj, who also claims to be a 2006 hire, accidentally admitted he expects to go in 2018. It would take a large amount of extra flows over the contractual minimum to get through all of the 2006 hires this year. I'm hoping I go before June 2018 now.
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:20 PM   #219
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This. Simple minded fools is an accurate statement. The dramatic dropping of upgrade and flow is already in progress. The math is all right there in the projections. Where the final numbers are listed on Envoyair.

Some people have no common sense and have trouble with math and facts. That's pretty apparent here in this thread.
It's true that some people have problems with simple math. It's also true that some people are inflating the numbers, people like you. If you truly believe the flow is good, why not just tell the truth? Why tell people to plan on 40 when anyone already here could see that staffing levels wouldn't be able to support sending extra pilots?
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:23 PM   #220
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I think we can all agree that the pool is not the same as starting class at aa. You still get junior manned at envoy while your in the "pool"
While this is technically true, recently I think they've kept the pool to a month or two, I believe so there is time to finish paperwork involved.
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