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#111
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Lol. This is the biggest untruth ever posted.
Absolutely nothing QOL related has been rectified. The only thing that has improved is bonuses for FO's, new hires and vastly increased hiring levels. Absolutely nothing QOL related has been fixed, at all. Lines are absolutely horrendous as shown in the data posted by ALPA monthly. We have the worst, lowest average credit, lowest day off, most unproductive schedules in the entire US regional jet industry. (fact). We have the highest percentage of reserve pilots of any airline in the country. Uncommutable 2 days off is now normal, not the rarity like in the past. 5 (4 day) sequences per month now is normal for most. Absolutely No variety any more, like day trips or 2-3 day trips for locals to be home more, basically 100% 4 day trips now, in some statuses it is 100% 4 days. Which is horrendous for locals living in base. Reserve rules and abuses are godawful in most statuses. Especially DFW 145 CA.
As rough as reserve is, QOL by bidding reserve is still better than 98% of the lines in the bid pack on most statuses (except DFW 145 CA) if you are a local which speaks volumes about how bad the schedules really are. When reserve is senior over lines, that is pretty telling. No way I would bid one of these terrible lines over RSV as a CA here, even as a mid seniority line holder. They are too bad, pay credit is awful and Time away from base is the highest I have ever seen. 400 + hours of time away from base was unheard of just a few years ago. Now its normal, and for min pay credit.
If you want to say hiring is good, flow is working and upgrade time is dropping, I will agree. QOL absolutely is not improving though. It is terrible, worst it has ever been. Sad thing is it doesn't have to be this way, they could easily fix it without raising costs, but they don't. People managing from offices are home every night. Obviously They don't get it.
Absolutely nothing QOL related has been rectified. The only thing that has improved is bonuses for FO's, new hires and vastly increased hiring levels. Absolutely nothing QOL related has been fixed, at all. Lines are absolutely horrendous as shown in the data posted by ALPA monthly. We have the worst, lowest average credit, lowest day off, most unproductive schedules in the entire US regional jet industry. (fact). We have the highest percentage of reserve pilots of any airline in the country. Uncommutable 2 days off is now normal, not the rarity like in the past. 5 (4 day) sequences per month now is normal for most. Absolutely No variety any more, like day trips or 2-3 day trips for locals to be home more, basically 100% 4 day trips now, in some statuses it is 100% 4 days. Which is horrendous for locals living in base. Reserve rules and abuses are godawful in most statuses. Especially DFW 145 CA.
As rough as reserve is, QOL by bidding reserve is still better than 98% of the lines in the bid pack on most statuses (except DFW 145 CA) if you are a local which speaks volumes about how bad the schedules really are. When reserve is senior over lines, that is pretty telling. No way I would bid one of these terrible lines over RSV as a CA here, even as a mid seniority line holder. They are too bad, pay credit is awful and Time away from base is the highest I have ever seen. 400 + hours of time away from base was unheard of just a few years ago. Now its normal, and for min pay credit.
If you want to say hiring is good, flow is working and upgrade time is dropping, I will agree. QOL absolutely is not improving though. It is terrible, worst it has ever been. Sad thing is it doesn't have to be this way, they could easily fix it without raising costs, but they don't. People managing from offices are home every night. Obviously They don't get it.
#112
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This is such BS. Your misinformation is getting really old. You've said before you live in base and bid reserve, so how can you even answer his question truthfully?
Here's the answer from a junior line holder: Even if you get the worst 4 on/2 off, most uncommutable line in the entire bid packet, you can trade all of your trips to be commutable on one or both ends (sometimes transition trips can be hard to trade). I am not senior, usually get one of my last choices of lines, and trade every trip to make it commutable.
I get that QOL sucks here, but making stuff up just makes you look like you're pushing an agenda, and it doesn't help the new guys out.
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Here's the answer from a junior line holder: Even if you get the worst 4 on/2 off, most uncommutable line in the entire bid packet, you can trade all of your trips to be commutable on one or both ends (sometimes transition trips can be hard to trade). I am not senior, usually get one of my last choices of lines, and trade every trip to make it commutable.
I get that QOL sucks here, but making stuff up just makes you look like you're pushing an agenda, and it doesn't help the new guys out.
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Yes, I almost always bid reserve, but I also have eyes and can read a bid packet. Perhaps I was wrong in that I failed to fully account for trip trading. Good for that you've had success trading out of most of the uncommutable lines you were awarded. During the few months I bid lines instead of reserve I had very mixed success trip trading. Even though I don't commute I definitely prefer late starts and early finishes, but often the only trips that provided that were crazy 8 or 10 hour 4-days that cost me a lot of money. This has been my experience, perhaps yours is different.
Anyway, since this is a discussion board it is likely beneficial for new hires to read an actual discussion, made of different opinions and perspectives and definitely not just one person's, whether that be mine or yours. If I erred in presenting the whole picture it wasn't out of some smear campaign or whatever you think, it was my honest opinion. QoL here is awful, and those in management who brush it off as whining are just plain insulting.
#113
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#114
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The irony is that we could actually staff significantly more block hours if we were to get an efficient flight file. If they stopped give envoy the scrap heap we could have efficient schedules and staff several thousand more block hours per month....
#115
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Position: Guppy Captain
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#118
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Position: ERJ 175, CA
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As for pre-class study, there isn't a whole lot you can do until you have access. Your indoc will be spent diving into FM1 which you will have a test on after the week finishes.
As for pre-class study, there isn't a whole lot you can do until you have access. Your indoc will be spent diving into FM1 which you will have a test on after the week finishes.
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#120
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