2018 Tentative Agreement
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,015
I'm not arguing I'm just saying that ya'll deserve and should get Endeavor pay rates now...not in 2020.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 338
Food for thought:
As of 1/1/2020, RAH CA rates will be equal or higher than those of Endeavor. That's less than 2 years, not 3. At that time, republic's nc will be back at the negotiating table. Endeavor's? Who knows?
Their CBA is till 2024. Also, how bout this....
Would you rather have Endeavor rates now but be forced to accept:
Junior Manning
NYC Co-basing
A reduction to 4 hours min day
A 30% increase in insurance premiums
Zero dollars HSA company contribution
An average line award of 76 hours (vs 87 at RAH) while averaging the same days off (14)
Truly objective apples to apples comparisons don't just include pay rates.
As of 1/1/2020, RAH CA rates will be equal or higher than those of Endeavor. That's less than 2 years, not 3. At that time, republic's nc will be back at the negotiating table. Endeavor's? Who knows?
Their CBA is till 2024. Also, how bout this....
Would you rather have Endeavor rates now but be forced to accept:
Junior Manning
NYC Co-basing
A reduction to 4 hours min day
A 30% increase in insurance premiums
Zero dollars HSA company contribution
An average line award of 76 hours (vs 87 at RAH) while averaging the same days off (14)
Truly objective apples to apples comparisons don't just include pay rates.
#24
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 27
Food for thought:
As of 1/1/2020, RAH CA rates will be equal or higher than those of Endeavor. That's less than 2 years, not 3. At that time, republic's nc will be back at the negotiating table. Endeavor's? Who knows?
Their CBA is till 2024. Also, how bout this....
Would you rather have Endeavor rates now but be forced to accept:
Junior Manning
NYC Co-basing
A reduction to 4 hours min day
A 30% increase in insurance premiums
Zero dollars HSA company contribution
An average line award of 76 hours (vs 87 at RAH) while averaging the same days off (14)
Truly objective apples to apples comparisons don't just include pay rates.
As of 1/1/2020, RAH CA rates will be equal or higher than those of Endeavor. That's less than 2 years, not 3. At that time, republic's nc will be back at the negotiating table. Endeavor's? Who knows?
Their CBA is till 2024. Also, how bout this....
Would you rather have Endeavor rates now but be forced to accept:
Junior Manning
NYC Co-basing
A reduction to 4 hours min day
A 30% increase in insurance premiums
Zero dollars HSA company contribution
An average line award of 76 hours (vs 87 at RAH) while averaging the same days off (14)
Truly objective apples to apples comparisons don't just include pay rates.
#25
Much of the regional industry is likely 6-12 months away from new TAs for improved work rules and Endeavoresque compensation. If you don’t find this TA satisfactory (I know I sure wouldn’t), by all means vote it down. I don’t think you have a single thing to lose by voting “no” on this. The speed at which the industry is moving will force your managment to pay more one way or the other. “Endeavor or better” isn’t simply some cattle call. It should be the new standard because we’re worth that and more.
#26
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 54
-Not using junior manning "very often" is a far cry from NOT CONTRACTUALLY PERMITTED.
-Their bump in HSA contributions still lacks republic's by 35%.
-Their Healthcare premiums are 30%+ higher than republic's
-Their average line value SYSTEM WIDE (not just selectively factoring the 900s) is 14 days off with 76 hours credit.
-And we haven't even touched on the "industry standard" co-basing that republic does not have.
Oh, and republic (and other carriers) credit 4.2 minimum, not 4.0
-Their bump in HSA contributions still lacks republic's by 35%.
-Their Healthcare premiums are 30%+ higher than republic's
-Their average line value SYSTEM WIDE (not just selectively factoring the 900s) is 14 days off with 76 hours credit.
-And we haven't even touched on the "industry standard" co-basing that republic does not have.
Oh, and republic (and other carriers) credit 4.2 minimum, not 4.0
#27
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 54
Much of the regional industry is likely 6-12 months away from new TAs for improved work rules and Endeavoresque compensation. If you don’t find this TA satisfactory (I know I sure wouldn’t), by all means vote it down. I don’t think you have a single thing to lose by voting “no” on this. The speed at which the industry is moving will force your managment to pay more one way or the other. “Endeavor or better” isn’t simply some cattle call. It should be the new standard because we’re worth that and more.
#28
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 27
-Not using junior manning "very often" is a far cry from NOT CONTRACTUALLY PERMITTED.
-Their bump in HSA contributions still lacks republic's by 35%.
-Their Healthcare premiums are 30%+ higher than republic's
-Their average line value SYSTEM WIDE (not just selectively factoring the 900s) is 14 days off with 76 hours credit.
-And we haven't even touched on the "industry standard" co-basing that republic does not have.
Oh, and republic (and other carriers) credit 4.2 minimum, not 4.0
-Their bump in HSA contributions still lacks republic's by 35%.
-Their Healthcare premiums are 30%+ higher than republic's
-Their average line value SYSTEM WIDE (not just selectively factoring the 900s) is 14 days off with 76 hours credit.
-And we haven't even touched on the "industry standard" co-basing that republic does not have.
Oh, and republic (and other carriers) credit 4.2 minimum, not 4.0
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,909
You don’t sound like an Republic Line pilot- you’re way too excited about a TA fails to deliver and will hopefully be voted down to show that Republic pilots deserve industry leading pay now, not what may be industry standard or less in three years time.
Republic set the bar a couple years ago which sparked the industry wide pay increases everyone has enjoyed. No reason they should settle for mediocre this time around.
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,015
-Not using junior manning "very often" is a far cry from NOT CONTRACTUALLY PERMITTED.
-Their bump in HSA contributions still lacks republic's by 35%.
-Their Healthcare premiums are 30%+ higher than republic's
-Their average line value SYSTEM WIDE (not just selectively factoring the 900s) is 14 days off with 76 hours credit.
-And we haven't even touched on the "industry standard" co-basing that republic does not have.
Oh, and republic (and other carriers) credit 4.2 minimum, not 4.0
-Their bump in HSA contributions still lacks republic's by 35%.
-Their Healthcare premiums are 30%+ higher than republic's
-Their average line value SYSTEM WIDE (not just selectively factoring the 900s) is 14 days off with 76 hours credit.
-And we haven't even touched on the "industry standard" co-basing that republic does not have.
Oh, and republic (and other carriers) credit 4.2 minimum, not 4.0
Also, it is perfectly reasonable to compare Republic's TA terms to Endeavor's 900 figures. Endeavor will be 74% crj700/900 by June.
Finally, codomicile came in exchange for positive space second attempt commuting. They'll even buy a passenger off the flight if needed for you to get you to work. While most pilots aren't too happy about the codomicile, positive space commuting is a game changer. The company and union have been showing positive progress at getting improvements to transportation between the two airports.
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