Republic vs. PSA
#101
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Just so you know.... the entirety of last year as a 2nd year FO, without using SAP (which we also have at Republic), I had 17-19 days of a month and north of 90 hours of credit. It was slightly busy one month when I dropped down to 15 days off and had 115 hours of credit.
#103
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I’ve had as many as 20 days off utilizing the SAP. And that was crediting 65 hours. I usually aim for 13-14 off and I’ve been netting about 104-110 credit with the new “accelerated” pay credit. The thing with the SAP is that you can get off any day you really may want. Don’t want to work a holiday? Don’t have to. Want to make it to all of juniors ball games Saturday night? Sure thing.
And if I were a new hire, I would definitely not discredit the flow. I certainly would not depend on it by any stretch of the imagination, but it does provide a lot of benefits. The main benefit for a new hire is going to be the constant churn off the top of the seniority list. Every month AA is hiring you’re guaranteed to move up at least that many spots at a WO.
PSA:
Decent pay
SAP
Flow
Lots of seniority list movement
Republic:
Good pay
Good work rules
And if I were a new hire, I would definitely not discredit the flow. I certainly would not depend on it by any stretch of the imagination, but it does provide a lot of benefits. The main benefit for a new hire is going to be the constant churn off the top of the seniority list. Every month AA is hiring you’re guaranteed to move up at least that many spots at a WO.
PSA:
Decent pay
SAP
Flow
Lots of seniority list movement
Republic:
Good pay
Good work rules
#104
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PSA:
Decent pay
SAP
Flow
Lots of seniority list movement
Republic:
Good pay
SAP
Good work rules
Lots of seniority list movement (FO Side)
Upgrade about two years. (I don't know about PSA's)
Also to the other question, it changes constantly but a classmate of mine 5/18 got PHL out of training. There's a 1/18/2019 hire who was awarded PHL already and is still listed as in training.
YMMV
#105
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I have a question about SAP that everyone seems to claim is the greatest thing to ever happen in in the history of aviation. I have had every single swap or drop flat out denied. Am I just a royal dumbass that doesn’t know the tricks to the thing?
#106
No, the SAP that Republic pilots are touting is hardly comparable to the SAP that PSA pilots enjoy. The SAP at PSA is not bound by the reserve grid, holidays, etc. It is unrestricted.
#107
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Just so you know.... the entirety of last year as a 2nd year FO, without using SAP (which we also have at Republic), I had 17-19 days of a month and north of 90 hours of credit. It was slightly busy one month when I dropped down to 15 days off and had 115 hours of credit.
This is what I hear from FOs I fly with in CMH. I believe if you live in base you can make extra money as well. Long call is nice.
#108
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I’ve had plenty of luck with SAP, but you’re not dropping below 75 hours at Republic. I’ve actually dropped down to 75 hours, but it happened during SAP 2, and not 1.
#109
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Hah, no, ours isn't anything like this. You have to get pretty creative to get what you want, & Not touting, just being accurate.
We do have it and it offers some flexibility once you get good at it. Some months are better than others. All SAPS are not created equal!.
We do have it and it offers some flexibility once you get good at it. Some months are better than others. All SAPS are not created equal!.
#110
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Some months are better than others and you have to get pretty creative sometimes. If I really need to drop something, I pick something else up to make sure I'm over 75 after the drop, then trade off or drop what I picked up to do that later if I can. (did that make any sense?)
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