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06-01-2019, 03:01 PM

#111

TheWeatherman

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I found that if you bid your credit high, you have more flexibility to drop SAP 1. I bid for 95 hours credit which I got. I was then able to drop to 76 hours to clear the middle of the month for a two week vacation that I am taking.

06-01-2019, 03:42 PM

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chrisreedrules

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Personally, I utilize the SAP at PSA to make sure my trips are commutable and to make sure I’m crediting at least 90-100 hours /month. I actually think I would prefer a more straight-forward system like what you all have at Republic. PBS awards me a line based on my preferences. Then I can SAP from there. With line bidding there are some benefits, but I know a lot of pilots who will often times bid their lines around just 1 or 2 trips with the plan to drop and or swap what they don’t want in the SAP. Not exactly efficient.

06-02-2019, 05:13 AM

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Web265

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Some stuff....

So just out of curiosity chrisreedrules, how does PSA make certain the flying all gets manned. If SAP is unrestricted, they must have a back up of some kind, no?

I'm thinking there must be a trade off somewhere.

A really large reserve list? (which isn't really a trade off)

Junior Manning?

Airport Standby?

..and really...once you get up the seniority list some, none of these would be a negative.

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06-02-2019, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Web265

They run a round 2 bid that creates line schedules from the leftover opentime from sap. It also consists of the reserve schedules. Even from that though there’s leftovers and reserves typically fly the junk no one wants.

Sucks but if we had duty / trip / better min day reserves wouldn’t be flying as much opentime trips.

06-02-2019, 06:42 AM

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Web265

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Originally Posted by Urban achiever

...but if we had duty / trip / better min day reserves wouldn’t be flying as much opentime trips.

I'm guessing that can make for some truly ugly pairings but I guess if it's all going to those low down the list you can "seniority" your way out of it before too long.

06-02-2019, 07:53 AM

#116

Swakid8

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Originally Posted by Web265

Really no trade off, our company builds a bunch of lines which under goes the first round of bids. The sap takes a place a few days after Round 1 lines are awarded,. After SAP ends then the company builds lines with leftover pairings from SAP which then undergoes a second round of bids which includes reserve schedules.

Really no trade off, if you can hold of around 1 line, then you pretty much have good control of your schedule with only one restriction (can’t go below 65 hours). It’s literally gold.