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Old 10-06-2019 | 06:15 PM
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What exactly did UA do to YX? Is this like the AA JS thing or something with non-rev priority?
Old 10-06-2019 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
What exactly did UA do to YX? Is this like the AA JS thing or something with non-rev priority?
They’re attempting to downgrade YX to OAL priority for the JS. They are doing the same for OO and Mesa as well. They have tried this in the past and we’re not successful at all. UA is doing everything they can to prop up their new all star ‘Aviate’ regionals.
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Originally Posted by Burt123
They’re attempting to downgrade YX to OAL priority for the JS. They are doing the same for OO and Mesa as well. They have tried this in the past and we’re not successful at all. UA is doing everything they can to prop up their new all star ‘Aviate’ regionals.
Why is TSH special though? I thought MESA was part of aviate?
Old 10-07-2019 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
They’re attempting to downgrade YX to OAL priority for the JS. They are doing the same for OO and Mesa as well. They have tried this in the past and we’re not successful at all. UA is doing everything they can to prop up their new all star ‘Aviate’ regionals.
YX and OO are probably the best performing and most reliable regionals and we constantly get the short end. The whole regional model is ridiculous. The sooner you get out of a regional the better. United loves hitching their cart to a crap horse.

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Old 10-07-2019 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
YX and OO are probably the best performing and most reliable regionals and we constantly get the short end. The whole regional model is ridiculous. The sooner you get out of a regional the better. United loves hitching their cart to a crap horse.
That’s because you’re the whipsaw. Only kept around to ensure the WOs don't get too much bargaining power.

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Old 10-07-2019 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by captande
That’s because you’re the whipsaw. Only kept around to ensure the WOs don't get too much bargaining power.
Don’t worry, the WOs are doing a fine job of not gaining too much bargaining power on their own with their terrible performance numbers.
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You can only fly the schedule given from aag. Since the non w/o dont get first pick and envoy is last on the pecking order, if aag does not like the numbers well they can stick it where the sun dont shine. Aag is falling apart from top down.
Old 10-07-2019 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
YX crews do the flying for ALL 3 codeshares REGARDLESS where they are based which is why priority on all 3 is viable. Unlike OO, where their base does flying for a specific partner ONLY. AA will not be able to keep what they have successfully due to YX’s JS committee. This UA thing is a non issue and was tried unsuccessfully in the past, but this time there’s 3 regional partners dealing with the same problem so good luck to UA.
OO is only base specific for AA and Alaska flying. UA/DL is done interchangeably out of almost all bases. also reserves from a non AA/AS bases can be and are frequently used to cover AA/AS flights
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
OO is only base specific for AA and Alaska flying. UA/DL is done interchangeably out of almost all bases. also reserves from a non AA/AS bases can be and are frequently used to cover AA/AS flights
Then why don’t all OO pilots get benefits on all 4 carriers then? Sounds like a **** deal to me.
Old 10-07-2019 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
YX and OO are probably the best performing and most reliable regionals and we constantly get the short end. The whole regional model is ridiculous.
There is allot of issues with the first part of your statement. For starters, OO isn’t the best at anything but being cheap and coincidentally flying slow. YX does have pretty good numbers, but some of the WOs exceed some of those metrics. YX also tends to cost more than a WO, that’s a very important metric for the BoDs answering to stockholders.

Short end of the stick, you have 3 masters, none of them want to risk providing an advantage to their rival. That’s the downfall to being a mega regional.

The second part, yep - C scale wages.

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