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Old 10-10-2019 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
YV is ‘Aviate’ according to their website and they’re getting shafted.

This doesn’t compare to AA, two separate problems going on.
Yep, well according to this site. Looks like it’s the Regionals who are exclusive United. Regardless Republic and Mesa pilots will still be above OALs.
Old 10-10-2019 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Sounds like a "Jumpseat war"...?
No, it really doesn’t. YX will just end up updating their JS priority tables to reciprocate to UA’s priority and the pilot group will follow the company manuals. Hopefully OO/YV will follow suit with that action. A “Jumpseat war” implies denying the JS to someone based on where they work and not following company manuals.
Old 10-10-2019 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
No, it really doesn’t. YX will just end up updating their JS priority tables to reciprocate to UA’s priority and the pilot group will follow the company manuals. Hopefully OO/YV will follow suit with that action. A “Jumpseat war” implies denying the JS to someone based on where they work and not following company manuals.
I haven’t seen the updated list, but it sounds like you guys just have to sign a new agreement with ALPA , and then you would have some priority. They’re giving higher priority (Like AA WOs) to carriers that only fly for United. I’m not sure how you would reciprocate? Doesn’t United own ExpressJet?
Old 10-10-2019 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Sounds like a "Jumpseat war"...?
There won't be a war. UA will terminate the pass privileges to anyone that denies a jumpseat to a UA or UAX employee. XJT had this happen to them years ago when UA / CO merged and refused to let FA's from UA on the FA jumpseat.
Old 10-10-2019 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ORD170
I haven’t seen the updated list, but it sounds like you guys just have to sign a new agreement with ALPA , and then you would have some priority. They’re giving higher priority (Like AA WOs) to carriers that only fly for United. I’m not sure how you would reciprocate? Doesn’t United own ExpressJet?
UA doesn’t own ExpressJet. They own a percentage. Due to UA’s FA contract they will never be able to 100 percent own any regional.
Old 10-10-2019 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt123
UA doesn’t own ExpressJet. They own a percentage. Due to UA’s FA contract they will never be able to 100 percent own any regional.
I’m sure it’s over 50 percent, so that would be controlling. I see how you guys would feel slighted, especially those who are based in ORD or EWR.
Old 10-10-2019 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jacburn
There won't be a war. UA will terminate the pass privileges to anyone that denies a jumpseat to a UA or UAX employee. XJT had this happen to them years ago when UA / CO merged and refused to let FA's from UA on the FA jumpseat.

Doubtful, because Republic did this exact same thing in 2017. ALPA blinked then, so I would say United management doesn’t care. They care about keeping their flights covered and profits. Also I’m pretty sure Republic doesn’t let UA FAs on the FA Jumpseat’s they have, but it may have changed in the last couple years.
Old 10-10-2019 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ORD170
Doubtful, because Republic did this exact same thing in 2017. ALPA blinked then, so I would say United management doesn’t care. They care about keeping their flights covered and profits. Also I’m pretty sure Republic doesn’t let UA FAs on the FA Jumpseat’s they have, but it may have changed in the last couple years.
It hasn’t changed. UA wanted to use those JS’s EXCLUSIVELY for UA’s FA’s. Republic said we can use them for YX’s FA’s as well. United didn’t like that and this went on back and forth to a final agreement of not allowing those seats to be used at all. So I’m sure you don’t need to take note, but this is how United’s management operates towards the second largest regional pilot group operating their UAX brand with the highest performance numbers, producing a large chunk of their profits.
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Originally Posted by jacburn
There won't be a war. UA will terminate the pass privileges to anyone that denies a jumpseat to a UA or UAX employee. XJT had this happen to them years ago when UA / CO merged and refused to let FA's from UA on the FA jumpseat.
This would never happen with a cockpit JS. If they decided to retaliate against an employee because said employee was following the FAR’s (121.547), management would be going down a very slippery slope of potential lawsuits and FAA consequences. Nonsense.
Old 10-10-2019 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by fortyeight
What a That’s the last time I hustle to get an aircraft out in that ridiculous 29 minute min turn window. My stroll from A to C in EWR just got a little bit slower, maybe with a pit stop along the way. They want to treat us like OAL pilots while we support their crap product on a daily basis? Good luck.

United just ****ed off the two largest pilot groups that support their regional operation.
Purposely being late only hurts us and your fellow YX pilots. Other than that, you’re not accomplishing anything.
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